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forgot to say, im pretty sure that most of the people who call hacks way too often just dont know how to use sound properly. also q3fan for me it is really, really confusing as to why you, who calls 50% of decent players a cheater, dont see the suspicious crosshairplacement of rayzo.. makes me wonder what you think a cheat should look like.
of course really good aimhacks cant be spotted easily, so reviewing demos should be about obvious hacks and none of the ones i commented are obvious at all. rayzo on the other hand is suspicious as fuck.

I'm sorry to hear this from you. I play on the sound, and I know how it's must looks. About rayzo, i too kill walls, when I want to draw the enemy..
I played a lot with him, did not notice anything suspicious.

i don't have anything against you personally and i appreciate all the work you've done to keep this mod alive, but i cant agree with your cheating accusations generally.i know that if you tend to play with someone for a while you grow less suspicious. but the videos of rayzo, although not necessarily proof, are very suspicious in my opinion.
np frr, i was raging a little seeing those accusations Big grin

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RIX!·SOUL· wrote:

most of the people who call hacks way too often just dont know how to use sound properly..

To say the least...most of those retarded people have never even played with a pair of good headphones(plus DAC) or they even play with music on.

Rixo, you must play 1v1 vs me. Poison? We must check yours sound control!!
edit: mb you 1979 or mb you frrr xDDD
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i all time ready just tell me anti cheater pro!

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I didnt understand what you mean, have to drink 1 liter of vodka before trying to read this shit

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Roxor and Loxotron

https://youtu.be/svAG_ACN65U

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demo: q3dm11
https://dropmefiles.com/nlxGA

is this a serious report? i don't see anything remotely suspicious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svAG_ACN65U&feature=youtu.be

Looks wallhack to me.

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RIX!·SOUL· wrote:
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Roxor and Loxotron

https://youtu.be/svAG_ACN65U

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Intel-War-Server!

demo: q3dm11
https://dropmefiles.com/nlxGA

is this a serious report? i don't see anything remotely suspicious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svAG_ACN65U&feature=youtu.be

Looks wallhack to me.

Lol, once again this demo..Yeah, this one in my opinion is not less suspicious than the one with Rayzo. Especially when at 4:16 the dude shooting the wall without seeing the target(anyone who plays dm11 knows, that you cant hear anyone deep in the tunnel, especially from that distance).

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2!S*Monk! wrote:
RIX!·SOUL· wrote:
(*WASP*SH▲DOWKNIGHT) wrote:
Roxor and Loxotron

https://youtu.be/svAG_ACN65U

Server:
Intel-War-Server!

demo: q3dm11
https://dropmefiles.com/nlxGA

is this a serious report? i don't see anything remotely suspicious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svAG_ACN65U&feature=youtu.be

Looks wallhack to me.

Lol, once again this demo..Yeah, this one in my opinion is not less suspicious than the one with Rayzo. Especially when at 4:16 the dude shooting the wall without seeing the target(anyone who plays dm11 knows, that you cant hear anyone deep in the tunnel, especially from that distance).

would need to recreate that scene but its entirely possible he saw the name pop up right? gotta admit that one is a scene that looks "remotely" suspicious. i honestly dont remember wether you can hear him or not, but the distance should be close enough. could be prefire of a common angle as well. at least more than half of the rest of the scenes are simple prefire and aligning a shot.
the big difference between this demo and the rayzo one is that rayzo is aiming faaar away from where he would expect an enemy (roxor is aiming a common angle), then he is following the enemy actively (not just moving same speed, but aiming with mouse) through that wall and for some reason even tries to shoot that wall at an angle that doesn't make sense at all, except for maay be baiting the enemy out like q3fan said. both loxo and roxor wait for spawns, place crosshairs where they expect an enemy and well thats about it.

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possible he saw the name pop up right?

Nop, it doesnt popup without straight pointing at target, and the target was deep in the tunnel and not visible.

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could be prefire of a common angle as well

That kind of prefire only noobs use, so I dont believe it either. Randomly shoot at different places and reveal the enemy your location? Good players use prefire only when they hear someone coming/camping at specific place.

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rayzo one is that rayzo is aiming faaar away from where he would expect an enemy

That could be coincidence. He was actually pointing his aim towards the entrance(im talking about Overkill map). His aim was a bit high cause people tend to bfg- and grenade-jump straight from the lower to higher entrance. The only suspicious thing is that he shot the wall. But then again, it could be anything else maybe some prefire, or even accidental click.
You see, you can justify anything with that shape of mind. Im not saying both of them cheaters, but for me they are equally suspicious. Anyway, there must be more evidence, than one demo. I felt that on my own experience, that people here are way to paranoid about cheats because they lack skill and epxerience.

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RIX!·SOUL· wrote:

po1son wrote:
2!S*Monk! wrote:
RIX!·SOUL· wrote:
(*WASP*SH▲DOWKNIGHT) wrote:
Roxor and Loxotron

https://youtu.be/svAG_ACN65U

Server:
Intel-War-Server!

demo: q3dm11
https://dropmefiles.com/nlxGA

is this a serious report? i don't see anything remotely suspicious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svAG_ACN65U&feature=youtu.be

Looks wallhack to me.

Lol, once again this demo..Yeah, this one in my opinion is not less suspicious than the one with Rayzo. Especially when at 4:16 the dude shooting the wall without seeing the target(anyone who plays dm11 knows, that you cant hear anyone deep in the tunnel, especially from that distance).

would need to recreate that scene but its entirely possible he saw the name pop up right? gotta admit that one is a scene that looks "remotely" suspicious. i honestly dont remember wether you can hear him or not, but the distance should be close enough. could be prefire of a common angle as well. at least more than half of the rest of the scenes are simple prefire and aligning a shot.
the big difference between this demo and the rayzo one is that rayzo is aiming faaar away from where he would expect an enemy (roxor is aiming a common angle), then he is following the enemy actively (not just moving same speed, but aiming with mouse) through that wall and for some reason even tries to shoot that wall at an angle that doesn't make sense at all, except for maay be baiting the enemy out like q3fan said. both loxo and roxor wait for spawns, place crosshairs where they expect an enemy and well thats about it.

Rixo , as ive said before regarding that demo , Not all shots look genuine but I tried to grab the most I could , Look closely at:
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.58
1.35
1.45
watch 2.10 until 2.18
watch 2.25 until 2.36
2.55
watch 3.20 until 3.30
and more I just don't have time now to go over the video completely , but those shots look genuine to me especially watching demo that does not give any sound to the enemy location . Their General gameplay enemy location is spot on 100% , if enemy is on left they always have aim around left , there is no error they just pamper their shots a bit to make it look less obvious but at times posted above and continued throughout the video to me looks very suspicious.
As a side note roxo was suspected of wh back in 2010, info is on forum posted by skull. # 75-81

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On this demo at 5:38 the guy is aiming through two walls the wall where he is standing and the tunnel. XD but he didnt know paradise is in the tunnel he is waiting until he comes out. :DDD

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On this demo at 5:38 the guy is aiming through two walls the wall where he is standing and the tunnel. XD but he didnt know paradise is in the tunnel he is waiting until he comes out. :DDD

Exactly what i mean. A clean player cant aim through 2 walls on this exact angle. he ear an unfrozing sound at this time but its that all. and he is certain that the enemy is on the tunnel and not on the right.