Which is/was your favourite e+ mod version?

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Hi again, talking about whining people, it's a natural reaction towards no matter which release meant to criticize negative sides or point a finger to a possible change meant to improve that release, and if i was a critic and want to criticize a newer version, i would point my finger and cover over the whole word that say (2.4), IF i wasn't appreciating the work it took to be released!

Second, why would someone care what newbies whines without knowledge, why won't we disregard such whines and consider pro's ones, why would someone care that people have life issues nowadays or they found better game, what if they found better games due to the fact that (E+ sucks) now and they believe in it and say it inside those other games?

Noticed that all pro's (or call them who know more about in-game) agree and speak the same unanimously, they directly and indirectly say that [1.03 > 1.03+], which is on behalf of everyone, while newbies might still see no difference, since they will never feel or understand the meaning of smoothness, precision and stability.

Summarily, we have multi cfgs that we consider one of them the best, then why not, why would other's inactivity or other games or other's life issues be a reason not to change?

What if 1.03 was they key behind their absence? ever we thought that? Happy

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...Second, why would someone care what newbies whines without knowledge, why won't we disregard such whines and consider pro's ones...?

Nobody says about newbies here, I only see old as you call them 'pro' players speaking here
And when one of them which appears to be here since E+ started, says that 1.03 is no different on the code side from further versions, nobody seems to believe him Happy

I remember when I joined E+ there was still 1.02b running, then shortly after 1.03 was released for an long period of time, in that time a lot has been going on E+, but I almost forgot what was that thing that keept E+ with such an big activity over every other mod for Q3 or based on Q3 like UT, those been times of a server side scripting, to be specific an technique used by some admins to trick the master server and put their servers up to the TOP of the main in-game servers list, I used few of them too, for *TC* servers then for AIM[+], this let the servers to be swarmed with the 'newbies' that pass by from time to time and also it attracted regular players as well, this was this force that keept that activity at least on the servers, but someone finally saw that E+ servers and some others are always on top and crowded and snitched to ID software to do something about it, so ID changed the way how master server works and since that time from my point of view, we lost that activity on E+ gaming, now I see more activity on forums than on servers, we had to close our MU servers because literally nobody was playing on them, in past I could run FFA or TDM and it was swarmed every day, now ppls do go and play on that RUS RAIL servers with over-large hitbox so its easier to hit anyone there or occasionally on BEER freezer, I remember 2!Sweet Freeze was same as BEER now, but it used to run on PURE and active PB without port switching script and that killed it after some time as it dropped the activity to a zero.

As I said earlier, someone tried to run E+ 1.03 server for a while here as the majority was convinced that it is way better, but it end up empty Happy

So despite what easy just told you, why someone not launch again some 1.03 server and everybody would be happy? Tongue

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now ppls do go and play on that RUS RAIL servers with over-large hitbox so its easier to hit anyone there

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@camel: one more reason of dying e+ is fact that id released quake live. since you can install and play it via steam its much more popular. i mean in past we had new faces coming play e+ but who can be interested to install and play old q3 if there is kool quake live with online stats and all this cool stuff. btw i tried to play this game and its really good. they improved it well. you can choose main weapon, ammo is raised after some time (every 15s ?) so if youre not spamming you dont need to find ammo for your railgun etc etc. iam just missing regeneration of health like in e+ and e+ physics cos when iam strafing in ql i cant turn Big grin

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Please please, lets mind the question of the poll first.
What is your favourite e+ mod.

Excepting the misspell, favorite means to be in the top for alot of things. But primary its a personal vote and will be subjective. Therefor, whatever the poll result will be the winner should not be considered in anyway the "best" e+ mod.

For example: when i voted for 1.03/1.04 i was also thinking about, my experiences in that moment vs other version moments, also my e+ friends/mates, my games, others games, my fun time, the playing community and my reasons to find it favorite.
Was it also the fact that i was not involved in the forum community much and i had free time to play the game? YES

So i assume that most of you also voted regarding your best personal experience, doing so a more rather subjective vote then a objective, conclusive one.

So death to the new versions and omg new version is not liked by anyone, is again not a conclusion from this poll.
The only thing i can see from this poll notable is that we still have more veterans here then we have new ppls.


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well the question is clearly which is your favourite, not which is best (to which i doubt many know enough to answer). personally i think they both have pros and cons, which outweigh eachother in importance
i should hope ppl understand the word favourite by now without needing it explained Big grin but i see your point, just sounds defensive.

all you can take from the poll is that a particular version received the most votes as favourite by those who bothered to vote (for whatever reasons).
ofc there are no winners of this poll, just like a survey.

however i disagree that votes or more importantly comments that are not for the 'new and improved' version doesn't mean it cant be considered perhaps worse. it may certainly be better from a technical standpoint, but if the majority say the gameplay feels broken for them, then in that regard it probably isnt better or should at least be acknowledged.
perhaps a subjective opinion matters when one of the aims should be to please the userbase
because ofc you could make it 100% bug free, feature rich, smooth and accurate, but at the same time impossible to play. it may be 'better' technically, but still worse for a players perspective. what is the goal (to please/to work)

now im thinking pointless crap again, thanks Big grin

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Please please, lets mind the question of the poll first.
What is your favourite e+ mod.

Excepting the misspell, favorite means to be in the top for alot of things. But primary its a personal vote and will be subjective. Therefor, whatever the poll result will be the winner should not be considered in anyway the "best" e+ mod.

For example: when i voted for 1.03/1.04 i was also thinking about, my experiences in that moment vs other version moments, also my e+ friends/mates, my games, others games, my fun time, the playing community and my reasons to find it favorite.
Was it also the fact that i was not involved in the forum community much and i had free time to play the game? YES

So i assume that most of you also voted regarding your best personal experience, doing so a more rather subjective vote then a objective, conclusive one.

So death to the new versions and omg new version is not liked by anyone, is again not a conclusion from this poll.
The only thing i can see from this poll notable is that we still have more veterans here then we have new ppls.

And I think Polls are an excellent source of information, getting to hear what goes around in the minds of the people. Especially when you hold one in a community. It gives devs the oppurtunity to gather the community's opinions. Then it's just a matter of, what will they do with that intel?



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I didn't vote, because I doubt that any release has that great impact on the game or difference than the other to a level that makes one care, except of course for the added features.. Maybe I am not that old here to decide as I don't remember which release I started with, probably 2.1 or 2.0 but the reason makes me decide is that during the past I tried installing more than one release locally and experienced not a great difference at all.. so I doubt that what makes the feel of game differ by time is the operating systems change and hardware change, server sides configs, hardware of server machines change.. operating systems, compatibilities and so on.. in addition to internet speeds and the great difference in speeds of the connections of players..

One very weird thing is that I used to suffer from great shooting blocks and rails go through or hitting only if I would shoot near target, etc types of lags in the previous release, and all that went much less within the new release, however, started to see many people complain about same issues I had in the previous release that they had with the new release of which I didn't.. except for since around a weak all that lags went back.. so the issue either can be much more than to speak about a point release here.. or much more simple to be solved than that as well.


Have fun at E+ and never take it with hard feelings no matter how much you lose nor how much stupid or dump or punk or bad or blithering idiot the player you are playing with really is, it's just a game and we are here to have fun and enjoy our times!!

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thats precisely what edawn was, but the name was not e+ so it didnt see a gd uptake. it was seen as competition ( maybe a gd thing if it pushes this mod to see reason to develop. it did and well you know the rest, here we are.)

I arrived a bit late for edawn Big grin , but I still remember smth like forum, console, when I playied... I still have the folder somewhere from the previous incarnations of my windows xp Big grin

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dont see my post as negative critcism, just stating my thoughts.

No no, your has been a really good and quiet answer.

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...newbies might still see no difference, since they will never feel or understand the meaning of smoothness, precision and stability.

Yes, new players can't feel the difference, they just start from something new. But as it happened to us in our times, maybe they will start to feel other new differences, and the complaining will start from the future releases))

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now ppls do go and play on that RUS RAIL servers with over-large hitbox so its easier to hit anyone there

Sad Sad why why whyyyyy

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epsiplayer wrote:
Please please, lets mind the question of the poll first.
What is your favourite e+ mod.

Excepting the misspell, favorite means to be in the top for alot of things. But primary its a personal vote and will be subjective. Therefor, whatever the poll result will be the winner should not be considered in anyway the "best" e+ mod.

For example: when i voted for 1.03/1.04 i was also thinking about, my experiences in that moment vs other version moments, also my e+ friends/mates, my games, others games, my fun time, the playing community and my reasons to find it favorite.
Was it also the fact that i was not involved in the forum community much and i had free time to play the game? YES

So i assume that most of you also voted regarding your best personal experience, doing so a more rather subjective vote then a objective, conclusive one.

So death to the new versions and omg new version is not liked by anyone, is again not a conclusion from this poll.
The only thing i can see from this poll notable is that we still have more veterans here then we have new ppls.

And I think Polls are an excellent source of information, getting to hear what goes around in the minds of the people. Especially when you hold one in a community. It gives devs the oppurtunity to gather the community's opinions. Then it's just a matter of, what will they do with that intel?

About that "we still have more veterans here then we have new ppls", I remember that when I started to play q3 I didn't know that I need to install a mod, and I didn't know that a community exists Big grin, that's why you can read -> Joined: Apr 2009 and not Oct 2008 xD, maybe not good propaganda. Jokes a part, veterans are always a part of this community anyway, and it is a metter of respect to listen to all newbies and not. An old man can complain about "it was better in the past", but he's also a wise person.

I agree about the utility of the polls.

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