Trial members rule

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

or with other words fps, only thing we need to do to get the rule down is posting a massive amount of clan movement?

like that silly santa tag of 3M, where is that posted ?

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JUMPS'FPS! wrote:

Sorry, but I didn't understand a shit. The thing I've particularly got, you are trying to point about the some jurisdiction. I'm not changing any event/cup rules. The rule says any event matches related to the rank should be played according as with event rules as with ranking rules. Nothing new in that. About "new clanmembers" topic I told you - from now on, it regulates not only the event cases, but also an usual clanwars.

I'm not changing any event/cup rules. Yes u do by extending the CUP rules u give them other meaning... All thought the CUP is completely in depended from ranking, u can judge games not the CUP in the general... hope u finally going to get u are out of yours jurisdiction.

And it happens because there are no rule about game pause in the ranking rules at all, so the rule itself for ranking is useless, unless u going to combine it together with CUP rules. So it actually does changes only the CUP rules not the ranking rules...

eu.jeff wrote:
like that silly santa tag of 3M, where is that posted ?


Oh yeas exactly a good example!

And then some "#$%" going to argue santas aren't allowed to play...

Are u guys seriously doesn't seeing how ridiculous it is?

Juts the same to demand a WO or to kick player out of the server, while knowing he was joking from the start... Rules should help ppl and prevent unfair situation and not cause them... doh

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

It's not really neccesary to remind me what happened with Fala that days. We all remember it. I'm really tired to answer here on the same questions all day. Let's be more constructive. You collect 3m together and give me several arguments against this rule. From my side I will do the opposite.

1. Clanleaders are responsible for the clanDB. This part hasn't caused any issues for you.

2. Members are obliged to announce their movement into report topic.
This part was estabilished because :
1. Players cant remove themselfs from the DB by their own.
2. Preventing multiclanning issue/unnecessary problems for usual players which left clan, but weren't removed from its DB.
3. Making a referee's work a bit easyer due to implementing a topic where they can watch current clan transfers.
4. Preventing flames/issues during/after CW related to the clan transfers.
5. A clarify for the case. In the past it wasnt regulated and caused a problems.

We recieved a situation when each player/clan leader should confirm his movement into the report topic. Noone is obliged to check that topic everyday. I see no problems for everyone except banana to follow this rule. Evenmore, its not something totally new. Even without this rule 95% of clan movements were announced there.

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animalchik wrote:

I'm not changing any event/cup rules. Yes u do by extending the CUP rules u give them other meaning... All thought the CUP is completely in depended from ranking, u can judge games not the CUP in the general... hope u finally going to get u are out of yours jurisdiction.

Do I now need to drop down to explain it like for the five-year child?
Tell me how it happened that I judged a cup in general?

We have a rule down bellow:

5. Ranking event rules should be brought in compliance with ranking rules.

Is there something wrong do you think? Should be only so and nohow opposite. If the eventmanager decided play games for the rank, all of them should be played under ranking rules. If the eventmanager estabilished a rule - "all games should be played without PB and Pure but every match is going to be ranked", this rule will not have any positive result, because ranking rules are saying - "Pure and PB must be turned ON".

Cup can be completely independent from the ranking only in case if its matches wont be ranked. Example is Vanilla Cup. An eventmanager decided to play without PB and PURE. He could decide to disallow banana from the event. Or he could just disallow personally you from the game. He even could play with random gauntlet-only config with players he choosed. By other words - HE IS FREE TO SET ANY RULE HE WANTS.

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JUMPS'FPS! wrote:

Do I now need to drop down to explain it like for the five-year child?

Was i pointing out that u are a moron or something?

If u can't discus on a civil level then don't. And the fact that u get down to insults leads to only one conclusion, i am losing time here since it seems it not mater of a true arguments but some meanless forum fights. Its like talking to a wall.

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animalchik wrote:

Was i pointing out that u are a moron or something?

If u can't discus on a civil level then don't. And the fact that u get down to insults leads to only one conclusion, i am losing time here since it seems it not mater of a true arguments but some meanless forum fights. Its like talking to a wall.

I didnt want to insult anyone. I replyed on ur non-fair accuses and expressed my opinion more detailed. I provided an explanation for you, and detailed reasons for skull. Im here not for flamefight too. Peace and sorry for offence from my side.

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toxicity wrote:
We could keep clandb and new members for those who want it, but now u force me to read stuff which Im not interested in.

Sorry Toxic, but how me/the rule were forcing you to read a stuff you aren't intersted in? The only thing directed to a clan movement you are obliged to do is a one post at the report topic. You dont have to follow this topic or even clanDB everytime. Leave everything other for the match referees.

Will do as you say, just hope those refs fulfill the meaning of the word referee, becouse lately I got impression its just random guy recording demos while he barely knows whats going on, when particular case pop up. I dont want to offend people who spend their own free time being ref, but the ref tittle shouldnt be for anyone, 2x no for who barely speaks English.

About this rules blabla, I take hands off this till I hear some more opinions from different clans (doubt anyone cares anyway). I bet there could arise similar problems in future but that time me getting the popcorn instead of whining and with big smile on my face saying "i told ya" Big grin

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The rule requires a more precise formulation.

In order not to create a mess, it will be formulated so:

"Clan leaders are obliged to keep their clan database updated, in case of opposite, players are obliged to update their status manually using new clan members topic".

By using other words, we are giving a priority to the clan DB, a topic would be like a "spare exit" for the people which by some reasons werent updated in DB.

Making false statements using new clan members topics is forbidden. Any issues regarding such incidents will function in an immidieate warning, or a yellow card if it happens numerous times.

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If you have more questions regarding this case, please feel free to ask.

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3M'darkangel wrote:


solid argument is:

in whole life of e+ wasnt such rule, so imo its not necessary at all.

pb and pure are totaly different things with this one.

All know marcus is ia a bit on lucky, so i dont think there will be any problem with style, since all in e+ know that story about lucky (ia clan).

solid argument is , we have clan db, its own resposability of a new player who joined some clan, to bother about his ex clan and be delated, you can always ask epsilon or some clan db moderator to delate you, since the clan or team is not active.

So what we have got?

New player who did joined new clan cos his old ex clan is ia, can easly call administrator by pm or moderator of clan db, to tell him the situation and be delated from that clan.

Its his own responsability of the new player to do such thing, and if he does not do it, he cant be part of anyother clan cos it will be consideration multiclaning.

Or for what we do have administrators and clan db moderators? to accept clans and teams and have 2500 them in e+? or make their duty and do their job what ask the player.

I guess its clear explanation of why we dont need such rule, since from all time we had this, players asked moderatos to delate them if the clan leader is ia.

So, no need to force clan leaders or co leaders or members, to write in that topic, i repeat, that topic is only and stricktly for ''information for excessiveplus comunity'' wich is not related to rank at all.

Agree, when I wanted to be out from rsqt and die, both leaders didn't want to delete me from clandb :E
So I asked Epsilon to do it for me Happy
Also I like the bit about clandb moderators duty Happy Right now their job is just about clicking "accept" button. Pls atleast make an winter or spring cleaning once a year, because right now we have 999clans and I got so confused that I don't know which one should I join Sad