it is ok.This kind of FPS happens a lot in beta maps,solutions are: reducing volume complexity or choosing light textures, or maybe something i dont know.But we need more opinions on this.This make me remember last year we tested q3won map (which is a magnificent and huge map) me and flex, for possibly using it in a fragfest.Flex ruled it out because of FPS problems. .

But it is ok.it can be solved.And rememeber guys, we need that first map pack out, somehow, we dont need prefection , just nice playable maps.Later we can release more and more and better packs.

Beleive me it can be solved.

I dont know if we have to go through discussions about why we need a map pack.It is pretty obvious to me.It is about personalizing the mod.Give it more features.Promote work of anonymous mappers, that spend weeks working,and their work most of the time is forgotten.Give more attractability to the mod.etc...This can even lead to maps that are perfectly adapted to how we move.

thanks god, we know eachother well enough to have a passionate discussion without flaming eachother so bring it on.

Flex, you are the most not-happy with some of the maps.Can i ask you to put links here of custom maps that you find fit for E+ AND their authors ARE still active in mapping , it means they have released their last map at least less than a year?

Most of the time it is easy to contact them, and build a relationship that can lead to a new product.So go ahead and propose something.

As for those maps, i said from the start that they are to be reedited.So all critics are acceptable.But let us be positive and not reject all.

It is not that hard to make a map pack ..known to the public , you post it on LVL,put it in the front page of our website next to the mod files and it is D.o.n.e. This will spread in no time, but for this to be a success we need to be positive from the start.

So, in short i am asking you to propose more maps. the more options we have, the more we have chances to seeing this work.We only need 5 good maps.

I can tell you more : We have already one good map, that has been done here, and for the mod.Its the well, and this one is a proven success.So , let us do it.