KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

Hmm it looks like very bad chaos game.
Primary mistake is refless match. I know that is first time when Dirty making league. For next edition in pure e5 or pure e5r leagues sure need choose more refs..
I don't want making my own point of view for this match when i don't saw it.
Imo true is between KoD and X.
WooRus isn't calm guy but also kicking cause' sth simple on cw isn't ok. Same KoD should kick many times from server ppl who insults us without reason..
Anyway imo WooRus is skilled enough to not need use any cheats. I am sure about that. If someone from X isn't sure, try to duel vs him 1on1 on pure :twisted:

Congrats for Demons for win. I don't wish to see bad relations with X clan.
Just plz if someone organise league: let it be fair with fair rules and fair refs.

No need discuss it any more.

:salute: Salute !

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

looks like poor choas Tongue
i didnt read 1 of ur posts(they are to long)
i just gave a GG, n1 KOD

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007
*KINETIC* wrote:


All in all, it was a nice game and I think dm11 was just a draw map. There was no real winner since there were problems like that.

hehe my country m8 Big grin
what do u say about bnt vs tvl cw where bnt win 1 map at 1 frag difference.

i think now is about rules... total frags must mean somethink... u can see value about that... 1 team can be good on 1 map, the other is good on another map... so teams are tie... the question: who is the winner??? mabe the one who make more frags Tongue

that was happening also in rkt vs wgvd cw, where rkt leads in total score with 2 frags...but surprising, wgvd win 2 maps...that sucks...(not the wgvd victory->i like that; rules sucks)

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

If this is based on the 'best out of 3' system as i'm guessing it is, then total number of frags is totally irrelevant. It doesnt matter that your map win had a bigger difference in frags than their map win as long as they have won the 3rd and decisive map.

This ain't like football (home and away matches, where goal difference counts ).

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

yes, in e+ it is normally based on who won the most maps. that's why in ranking the result is posted like 2:1 and not 650:600.
and bnt homepage we had the fragresult on our wars some time ago, but then we had sime like wgvd-rkt, that we had less frags, but more won maps then our enemy and then we changed it.

somebody once said that in another quakeversion the winner was based on frag difference. but i don't remember who it was and in which quake it was.

*edit: sry for offtop... :roll:

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

lol that was me Dirty

i told u before of my doubts about this frags / or map rule
this because i used to play Quakeworld back in the dayz,

the rules there were like: those who had the most frags won the war, no mather if the losing team had more maps won.
(Thats why i was a bit confused about the change on our website Winking )

To be clear and honest; i like this current E+ rule (winning based on amount of maps won) more, because u require clans to be good on many maps.. Winking

@Crucifix
I dont think this is the fault of the organisation of the league (Dirty), Offcourse we are low in official league refs, but lately many matches are played with refs that are not official refs..

In my eyes, the league rules are fair and clear enough.
(offcourse it can be upgraded next time, but this is first league organised by organistor dirty)

And i know 100% for sure Crucifix, that the official league refs are 100% fair Big grin

So the question is, did X and/or KOD try hard enough to get a referee?
I did not see any question by X or KOD for reffing.. anywere.

(no hard feelings btw Winking

pure e5r whore

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

Pure is always on. Thanks to EN. It can not be switched off and on without restarting the server (can be confirmed by the server owners).
I'm not 100% sure but this is how the pure seems to work on the server:
only the same .pk3 files on the server are loaded in the client, if the pk3 file is modified then the person has invalid files and can not join the server to begin with.
all the extra pk3's (like zzz, z3, chatbubble etc) are not loaded so are useless in a pure server, but the folders are scanned for the lame pk3's and if found kicks the player.

one problem with the server was the autojoin feature and in the middle of the match you will get -1 for leaving a team (counted as suicide). I joined the game and tried to spec at the end when there was a timeout. the situation was in a shambles. I had no idea what was going on. But reading people's accounts of what happened, it shouldn't be counted as a valid result, but as there is nothing in the rules to protect against what happened, we can't request a replay of the map.

We in x don't tolerate abusive behaviour from anyone within the clan - I'll deal with any of those matters myself. Although we don't tolerate anyone from outside abusing us, we have come to expect it and have to live with it in this community.

If anyone has problems with any of the members of mystery of x then pm, email or msn me.

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

gg very nice )))

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

Damn, posting after Yas can only be done by quoting him because he always covers what I have to say.

Let's set this straight because I think you guys got me wrong. I am not saying KOD did not win the map or that we do not agree on the rest. On the contrary, I have confirmed that we agree with the result, we were just talking about how we got to that result. The match can be ranked as it is since members of both teams seem to agree that this is a fair result.

About the 6v3 and 4v5. It was X who had some problems because of this in the second phase, because like Yas said, those who joined did not frag members from your team, and when they did /away, we lost a point for each of them. However, first time when this happened X got a couple of frags from this, but all in all it's just a 1-3 frag difference. And even though this could have changed the result dramatically, I still think we have to admit that the game was fair.

As for Anti, he was kicked during timeout not during the game (hope I'm not wrong, I just saw him leaving once, during a timeout). And if something like kicking occurs, we always do /timeout for the team to pick another member to play.

It was such a fine game, it's really a shame to ruin the talk about it with nonsense like this.

GG KoD and I'm really proud that we could do better this time.

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KoD 2:1 X / 18.11.2007

Yes Happy autojoin, now i remember that server forced us into game on start dm11. 4v5 or 3v6 isnt important for KoD, just curious screenshots, we all see from screenshots theres no unfair points of 5th player.

Just tell me, when autojoin is set on server u losing points for leave team in TDM gametype ? I thought its only in 1v1 gametype. I will test it later on server.

@Anitchrist i think we not need talk already about, we all defending our clans, and we did it Happy