foksie..yea i found most of that out..the stuff in my earlier post...if u dont use a tool like sdc to RECORD the demo (which u can do only if ur running quake through sdc on the game server and only if ur spectating) quake records only the stuff in the map in your immediate vicinity...(same goes for MVD's in cpma)

second i dont think the players disappearing in the middle of the damn demo is because of packet loss...im pretty sure quake will take packet loss into account and reconstruct or extrapolate the positions..also ull notice that the disappearance doesnt happen when u play the demo in e+ and do third person cams....also if u check out cpma demos with same kinda ping it doesnt happen..i think its probly cos of compatibility issues between defrag (or whatever tool ur using) and e+ demos....

neways i havent tried mme yet but will try it...have you really tried it yet? if yes id like to hear about what its like and what the issues u had with it are...

however what i am wondering about is this..i presume that sdc and defrag and mme and other recam tools basically reconstruct the cam pov from the data that quake does record..so basically you should still be able to do SOME recams (constrained on the actual data recorded...not sure if we can quantify this but it should be possible).....so basically im wondering if we can't adapt the thing for e+...infact i dont understand y if recamming cpma demos works in sdc..y it doesnt work for e+....ill ask around about what the mods demo issues are....

also heard something called the kroma recam tool (from the shaolin productions mercurial movie)....will try to find out what that is...

edit: phooeey it actually runs e+ demos properly...lol...k..now ill try other stuff like recams and enemy skins etc etc and see if they work......

edit2: @tar....problem is with the q3config file in ur mme folder probably..so get another q3config file and replace the one in ur mme folder with the new one..it should work (btw there exists this crazy little website called GOOGLE! lol jk)

it works! it works! it works!!!!!!!!!!!! yay! three cheers to the mme team! hot damn! i mean it even allows you to separately change the models and colours and stuff of every single client on the server when the demo was recorded....HOT DAMN!....

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edit: hmm this keeps happening to me again and again..lol a problem seems insurmountable and then the solution strikes me and i feel stupid lololol...sigh...i guess problems are like that ...neways...i found out the cause for the disappearance of people when i played a demo...the thing was i used freecam (both in defrag and in mme) to fix the cam to a particular part of the map..in the specific case it was the bridge across from the rail ledge on dm6....i was there for sometime in the game and then i died and respawned at the plasma stairwell..but meanwhile my cam was fixed at the bridge..and then i was wondering y people were disappearing..simple answer..because i wasnt at the bridge (i was still moving from plasma stairwell to the bridge area) quake didnt record all the players at the bridge...lolololol