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Do you think this only happens on E+, btw? Lol, every good clan on every game where you CAN do it (camp, spawncamp etc) WILL do it, because it increases their chances of winning. Live with that or stop playing CW's.

That's just simply wrong. Ever played/watched a cw in quake 1 - dm3? Now try to compare it to standart cw in e+ ... O.o - there is a lot of diffrence I would say.

Of course there is difference, and i'm NOT saying it's cool to do that. But a fact is a fact - you want to win, you have to do everything you can. Especially if the average skill of your team is similar to the average skill of your opponents.

"Cel uświęca środki" Of course, as long as it's not anything cheat-related.

The main difference, as stated before by Wonko, is maps who are just too little for playing, for example, 5v5 TDM (dm6, for example). Ability to move very fast around maps make them just too small.

Now, about Q1 - i played a lot of CW's on QW (not on a high skill level, but still...), and even then you could notice malicious spawnraping and heavy camping. RL, RA and power-ups (all 3 of them if i remember correctly) on DM3 are huge strategic points, camping which was included in many, many clans tactics. So what the other guy will whine because you put a rocket in his ass from behind and when he respawned got shafted by your teammate - you got the points which bring your team closer to the end success, and that's all that matters.

LOL thread, again ktm are complaining about camping, quad etc. Just learn to lose with honor ;f It is best idea to close it couse it can raise many flames

i belive its just Beazst but still he represents the clan ...

What mad said is dead right I'm affraid, just like for football, if you attack, the game looks nice but you take an enormous risk (+in footie u get benched/fired if you loose) so almost all big teams take the only reasonable option : they defend like mad (not u evol.mad )... Who won the world cup? What gamestyle did they play?
Same stuff happening in E+... I had a look at the E+ world cup demos, the minicup insta-freeze cup and -no offense anybody u guys are madly skilled- it's not the most entertaining sight ever but its the way it goes I'm affraid.
Have you ever started a single player game and it defaults to the default.cfg?
Well that config has a spawn protection system, why cant we apply it here?
And maybe instead of making a shorter camping period(hope you understand what I mean...), it might be a better idea to make the zone you have to move out bigger so you have to move further.... Obviously not too big, culd be tricky on DM17 if you couldnt stay on the ground, quite entertaining though ...
Orpheus

orpheus..ever wonder y brazil's won so many world cups?....

neways mow err im not trying to compare e+ to cpma and try to say which ones better..but theres nothing wrong with comparing e+ to other mods for the purpose of fixing problems with e+....it just so happens that cpma is one of the most well thought out mods in q3...u better start accepting that cos theres simply no arguing with it....(read promode.org forums for more info)..

neways no more from me on this topic..time to lock it if u ask me...nothing new has been added for one whole page...