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KaFa wrote:

In order for the game flow to progress in a healthy way

it would be interesting to have the callvote kick option available on freon, as there is no moderation for the following:

-abusing out of bounds areas of the map, camping in the hiding places only accessible due to e+ weapon knockback.

-camping in the portal area dm7, rounds drag out longer than necessary, bodies thaw while they are hiding.

-changing the value of friendly fire in order to intentionally teamshoot eachother instead of playing the game? why..

-stealing thaws from teammates, this often leads to both team members getting killed by the distraction. theres no need for it. i dont expect to be hit by lg by a teammate, directing my focus to this damage is not helpful.

-joining/leaving multiple times per game, if you join at least try and stay until the map ends. joining, going afk, re joining, going afk, disconnecting, coming back 2 seconds later, joining, going afk again. everydaydo what you need to do irl before joining a round or after the round has finished, not during gameplay please. teams get messed up, people try to balance and then they are messed up again because the person decides they want to play again for 2 minutes.

-callvote the same 3 maps everyday, mid game. either suggest a map rotation change, remove the option to callvote map or wait until the round has finished. its dm7, overkill and dm2/dm3 all the time, when we get an unplayed map, one of these gets voted during the game, often after several rounds have passed.

-players joining but not participating in any manor, just shooting the grounds/walls, hiding, jumping on eachother but not helping their team in any way. if you want to do that, go to single player or an empty server, we come to play and need teammates that are also playing not just using up a slot daydreaming.
plus everytime they reconnect i must mute them again due to console spam (typing distracting nonsense in caps that fills the full console line)

-reduce grenade spam? doesnt seem to be a rule on freon though, alot of players have it as part of their default weapon switch now. back in the day abusing that would result in kicks/bans. nowdays its just accepted as way to frag? that sucks but if thats how you want so be it.

none of these bad habbits will go away if they are tolerated, players on the server moan about it. please can something be done to educate them om the ehics of gameplay. i see unsupervised minors degrading gameplay for the diehards. the cfg has been dumbed down too much already with the weapon switch.all of these degress the flow of gameplay

i dont need to mention any names do i.

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Re: Freon
superbad! wrote:

[...] i see unsupervised minors degrading gameplay for the diehards. the cfg has been dumbed down too much already with the weapon switch.all of these degress the flow of gameplay

i dont need to mention any names do i.

Maybe the problem is just the diehards...joke asite, rail all the way and stuff should be fine. though i have sometimes notch abusers a bit.

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i play at my own but about your servers discord and your rules i mean strict rules set makes loose some amount of players , i will say come to my after you are baned on freon

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your rules i mean strict rules set makes loose some amount of players , i will say come to my after you are baned on freon

without such moderation you may loose players (see that insta gib server where some of the good players already migrated entirely, while others abandon freon when the pickups begin)

i'm not suggesting any bans, a kick is a slap on the wrist to encourage cleaner gameplay. the players that hit most of the points i made, simply dont know any better yet which is the problem. its not their fault at such a young age. you cant encourage good behaviour by total exclusion, they can reconnect and adjust their behaviour.

some of this is comes down to the mindset, looking for an easy route rather than putting in effort, that extends into life aswell.
i would be guilty of these too when i was much younger, but we learn and understand why this is inconsiderate, that is why im suggesting some supervision/guidance/talking to or last resort a kick with an explanation.

to put your phrase another way:
'when you get kicked from that store for shoplifting, come to mine instead'
ok

i havent recorded every instance, but have found a few minor examples, this shows some of the silliness thats tolerated (dating back to 2020) as well as peoples upset reaction to them. i dont make many comments about it ingame, nothing rude, but plenty of the players are saying and thinking the same things with less restraint.
i've see people writing:
'no suprise'
'same bs everyday'
'kids wil be kids'
'same as usual'

plus i found 1 comment from the ref which i think is not ok to make. sorry kafa, i respect you but saying 'go kill yourself' to a player is probably not a smart move. im not a snowflake that would be offended by that, but it doesnt set a good example especially considering the warning you've posted here, you are also subject to this change in attitude, though you seem more level headed recently Happy

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superbad words are standard suggestion

jiva words is not any rules set what actually are used or be in future

is bad language ability + marginal angle of view

i only want see in server spider or in game tracker sometimes play mine

what is mine , it is tigerhareram quake and other materials as old school gaming

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Re: Freon

i have suggestion too and very simply

change server spider

time duration of records have to be changed to longer

situation now is 1 week long visibility players

if you play at monday you will be visible 7 days then last to sunday time 6 days

this is now max 13 days visibility of your game tracked score

change this time to 1 month or more

by this way server spider will have more tracked records longer time

it is very good for quake

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superbad! wrote:

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Yes you are mostly right about ingame examples, but the real point about the children has been changed positively and that has been observed by many players. What you left here such screenshots are pretty out of date and when I talked to kids about trolling the game that will cause a ban for them they changed their attitudes in a positive way. Recently I do not get any frequent objection about kids for kicking, banning or other negative sanctions. In your example of "me saying go kill yourself" was just a grumble and the beginning of the conversation was different then it seemed. We can change the config of the game to make the gameplay better. Any suggestions will be evaluated and discussed among admins. Thanks for your time to write what you think about the gameplay and players.PS: Voting for kicking a player is just a temporary solution cause a player kicked can join a game instantly. Maybe it can be prevented to join the game for a some time or till the map ends.

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Re: Freon

Your welcome to ref super, I've asked multiple times for ref valunteers , as far as kids they can be banned for a certain time for misbehaving they know about it, refs / admins can treat them as any other player, like grown ups so they can learn, they only play 2 hours I intentionally made outside peak game hours that now became peak time? ..

Btw the the 8yo I see much improvement, the girl only when motivated ... Lol.

One thing I don't see anymore is old schoolers trying to teach / guide strategy , positioning etc . Believe it any small suggestions motivates newcomers and or my kids who look up to good players.
Remember how motivated we got when a a pro tried to teach something?
Nowadays someone new comes and mostly they get 0 presence acknowledgement, rather gets called noob and beat to a pulp.
And yeah ofc , is easier to play a simpler cfg. It would take a ton more for a new player stick to our cfg.

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thanks Shadow

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