dsharpe final evidence.

First of all, I'm going to post my 100% evidence and then I actually will answer to all wrong statements been around. Eventhough I am practically not allowed to provide that much Info I will simply give it (in fact, camel mentioned more then he should also in his vid - If you have enough brain you can draw the conclusion yourself)

Truth is, we have been testing various anticheats around in quake3 mods (for example antibot) and the E+ beta supporting them runs actually on servers of Aim Root, such as rail4ever or Aim Freeze.

Anyways, 1 day before I accused dsharp I seen him play a bit tdm and 2-3 stuff looked odd so i decided to trick him playing with me on aim freeze next day to run the anti cheater test on him.

If anybody wonders what has been odd is that if dsharp does a bit of flickshooting, his rail always hits on the edge of enemy hitbox when his crosshair is moving over it, then it moves even further over the enemy and moves back afterwards.

The odd thing is, that normal people flickshoot, trigger when they think they are ON the enemy (not on the edge) and move back instantly, ergo the rythm is move mouse towards enemy, stop mouse, shoot, move mouse back to normal.

Dsharp's rythm was move mouse towards enemy, shoot while it still moves, stop after having crossed the enemy moving back to normal.

Anyways, as I was on Aim freeze with him, I instantly got these reports:

Cheater B report equals Autoshoot

Id 13 was dsharp -> http://img181.imageshack.us/i/shot0341lq.jpg/

From my experience, the kind of antibot we used has no flaws considering Autoshoots, Mirc and me checked beer freezer 2 maps long for example, 13 players, over 40 minutes gaming, not a single report.

Dsharp had over 4 reports within short period of time (recognise both reports above are still first round), the 2 other reports are in demo besides other facts.

I also checked some jordan fakenickers which didn't have a single report either, neither had marcus/laktos/mirc/fala, nor anyone else big I scanned. ( for example, i didn't scan blade. )

Another guy who got caught by this scan is notrogen (people thought it anyways) and also dok sberla. There is Zero doubt from the technically side all 3 cheat with autoshoot.

I actually wanted to wait for release of the beta which would cause a drop for cheating for dsharp on all servers with enabled support. But somehow the situation went out of my hands. This blog entry is just for getting the bullshit cleared up some people caused.

If anybody still believes dsharp is clean, let him show evidence of his UT progaming past where he also used custom hacks prolly if he ever played there.

Now to all false statements.

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skull when you had 1v1 on dm17 last year sometime why didnt you say anything then? And dsharpe beat you that day and you said nothing, but now this?

it was after midnight and i was pretty tired, beside the fact my dm17 skills are rusty since new spawn system where i stopped playing dm17 mostly because of retard spawn system causing spawns behind you.

also considering the fact he got very low sens made the beating on dm17 possible, besides that, after the dm17 duel I raped him on dm2 with 66 - 37. Demo Avaible on Request ( ps: date was imo 18.4.2010)

Therefor I didn't expect anything besides that and monkey said he was pro from ut99 which I didn't check either.

He was very lucky that I actually never tested him with the tools I had. Remember, If you can beat someone quite normal you will not find anything suspicious, thats what being human is about. It applys to all people who actually told me this or that guy cheats, especially to dsharp who just accused whole mr of hacking.

Same story was in past with TNT diablo.

DSHARPEST wrote:

And i beat skull after playing 8 months dm17 2 maps with demo's which he recorded and viewed in slow motion many times.

I can't remember watching them slow motion, maybe I did, but I'm 100% sure I didn't watch it more then ONE time. besides that I probably just watched out for wallhack since I don't care about toggled Autoshoots for quite some time now.

DSHARPEST wrote:

#1DM17 a wh is useless #2 autoshoot with a BFG ?

Wh is effective on dm17, watch d1s/snygg/wit etc.

Autoshoot with bfg is also quite possible, just watch ncql youtube vid mentioned in catching cheaters, combined with the green box its 100 percent effective.

DSHARPEST wrote:

Always an excuse, skull you should join [MR]. and be called Paranoid. BFG station takes skill and you always refused to play me there.

Bfg station takes ping to win. I do have the skill necessary as seen on some vids where I did airrockets which are quite harder ingame then playing one weapon map only.

DSHARPEST wrote:

I am still the best there is now at this present moment in time in e+.

considering the fact I have been top around in e5r and you never really beat me on a closed map even with your cheats... err, no comment. Just a wannabe.

DSHARPEST wrote:

He involved my dead brother in this, so skullfuck him. Ban me for language so what.

And now I dropped my nuke on you blowing your cover away showing you peeing on your brothers grave. You just don't have honor since noone taught you, you haven't been educated to have the honor of someone else.

DSHARPEST wrote:

I'm done with this bullshit skull you coder.

I'm not the coder, I am the guy with the ideas, thats been how I done all stuff in E+, starting from gaming, learning, training and busting cheaters. I mostly have the idea I need for doing what I want.

DSHARPEST wrote:

-UT99 anti cheat coders had v good skill o.O... q3 anti cheat coder has inhuman skill? simularity dejavu ?

you might say we had the better idea's. Best q3 mod coder is some guy who isn't working for this mod.

SEQVENCE wrote:

@skull, hope u know thats not enough to ban anyone

depends on the point of view, if you have access to the raw demo then its more then enough.

Otherwise bans are handed out by server admins and I can NOT make them any permanent anywhere.

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 In addition to the fact that I got accused of cheating along with some of my relatives too by Camel & Skullhead without enough proof, and they never posted anything apologizing or stating that it was a mistake accusing us, and some people still have doubts towards us thanks to the so-called "cheating inspectors."

A cheater busters is always as good as the tools he has on hand. And don't blame Camel, Camel NEVER states his own oppinion, he mostly is translating my arguments to a form the community can understand them, such as shadow. I am thanking him for that, since If i work on something, I do as much as i think is necessary from my position of view, he completes most stuff if he thinks my argument might be misunderstood.

A K L wrote:

just look at this first shoot... he definently heard that enemy (i would hear him)

how about you give us your sound settings then? from my expirience its not possible to hear an enemy dropping down in rl room on overkill while you are so far in the back of pg room.

DSHARPEST wrote:

I do not have contacts to get private/undetetcted custom hacks.

o'rly?

DSHARPEST wrote:

I have my friends here who know me and I'm happy with them.

o'rly?

DSHARPEST wrote:

Get on any game and I'm considered high skill ( I guess i have custom hacks for all ? )

even with autoshoot I would totally consider you average in E+, besides your hitting you have nearly zero tactical skill nor you are as fast as an normal player in E+, you mostly react slower.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

I just want to say, that i am wondering, that skull is accusing people of cheating when he lost a 1v1 vs this person.

1st case, September 2009, vs narcyz

2nd case, November 2010, vs dsharpe

I am pretty much sure he has privatly accused marcus when he lost vs him, but marcus has too much reputation to be accused with randam demos/vids.

get your facts straight, as mentioned above, the game vs dsharpe was way in the past.

The game vs narcyz I played while having not slept that night (don't forgett that, honestly, my lesssleep in nick was based on waking up 5 or 6 o clock in the afternoon the day before, was so late i decided not sleep and didn't even expect to get to the finals in the cup - so much about skill differences.) and I'm still convinced that the shoot narc done wasn't clean

About Marcus, I never felt like him cheating, I can list tons of reason why not starting with faith being his brother.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

Again, i am just wondering, post is not based on any facts.

ah, rite Winking

mow Q [EN] wrote:

If dsharpe is really cheating, i will be one of the first who spit vitually in his face, but based on what i did read in different threads, there is no solid proof nor a reasonable explanation, and i wonder how a person can accuse smo in public, but keep his accumulated evidence material in private.

hf spitting on him, but please, instead of keeping evidence use the term has to keep evidence private, ty.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

Btw, skull is cheating, he killed 4 people in a row with flick-shots in a war. Proof is somewhere in this forum, he made also a video about it Winking Winking

hmm, I guess you mean this both:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_1ZCf8gXc

http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/sfc-f2b-2-0-da-28-07-2010

somewhere on dm7.

Quote:

"hard to play vs camper on shit map with loud mp3"

Hail to all metal fans Wave stand up and beat the n00bs down, metal is war!

anyways, If you guys want the counter example of the flickshooting dsharp does, here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZkBI-46uhw

any good player would have hit in that situation or at least shot, but dsharpes crosshair didn't touch the enemy -> no shooting, you might compare with merky.

so thats it from my side, guess the nuke blown up your whole name.

ps: thumbs up to anyone who trusted me.

pps: sry d3v.

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U guys do have many ideas and thoughts without even knowing the list of the people involved in the project or what does exactly the program does, maybe would be much smarter to don't post "the thoughts" because it is like guessing how much grains of sand is on earth.

I can agree in one of the part from the post above, Skull should not accuse Dsharp so quick and in front of public, the case is still investigated, we need to confirm some things, before my leader going to take any actions towards Dsharp.

At this moment the evidences aren't enough to made up any decision.

I am addicted to life.

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then give some info already plz. you don't have to post sources here, lol. but at least you can provide some statistics, for example, how much devs involved, how much different players this AC has been tested on, how long has it been tested for, how much false positives (this is quite interesting considering skull's attitude Tongue), etc? it isn't a big deal, is it? ppl don't have any info, so they invent a lot of crap about that brand new anticheetah thingie Big grin
and since it's beta now, make it public, what's the prob? Tongue


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"In Soviet Moldavia, Pole rages YOU"
like 2 months after Call me

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SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

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James wrote:

Lol@ya! Apparently you're a nationalist, taking Camel's side only
because he's Polish like you, and you haven't given this issue any
thinking and actually used your brain lmao! Or maybe you hate me for a
reason, but I dunno why, and I don't recall having a direct conversation
or conflict with you. So, .... Btw, go back and read the whole thing +
what people said about this. And concerning their apology, even if
they are right (and I still doubt they are) about Dsharpe, they'd still
have been wrong about us (Jordanians). Thus, you should not interfere in
this koszmit (your nick is odd, thank god there's such a thing as copy
and paste in computers).

I am still not convinced, as probably many are also not around here Dsharpe ceased to fire on the enemy in the vid u provided (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZkBI-46uhw)
because; Firstly, he didn't want to be noticed (as he was camping that
area of GL near YA), secondly, he thought the spawn was a team mate,
thirdly, when he realized he was an enemy, he couldn't aim and shoot at
him due to having a low sens as he claimed before. If I were in his
shoes, I would also have ceased to fire simply cuz it was still early,
and it would count as a spawn kill. So, what's different in this
evidence from the other one we watched on Camel+ site? The program
Skull is testing? How do we know it's working properly, and Skull
didn't just make it up to prove Dsharpe cheats? Just because it said
"PROBABLY CHEATER B 13" then Dsharpe is a cheater?? It still doesn't
prove anything imo (speaking as someone whom gotten accused with
evidence more convincing than this, knowing 100% I didn't cheat).

Dsharpe has a very low ping of approximately 27-40ms on public
servers like Equillibrium for example. I believe odd flickshots are
very possible with such low ping.

As everyone know, Quake III is becoming very old, and good coders can
trick pb in many ways, as some people in this community said. I'm not a
fan of E+ anymore, and as I said before, I play here only for fun, not
for winning. But I still care and am curious to know the truth about
Dsharpe here. Do you think it's fair for him to be banned unjustly for a
guessing rather than truth? ..................

James belive me, I am not nacionalist. Camel is just my friend and I
know how much he did for e+ comunity and how much time he spent on it. I
also belive skull's judgement and now you see that his charge is not
groundless. Note that I said nothing about dsharpe - simply I dont know
him i have never played with him as I remember (I see only that he is a dick) and as fala said I know
shit about this anticheaters tool. I dont hate you, I even like you
becouse I belive people i dont know have good intention. I just hate
pointless and unfair statements. My post was not only against your one but others chenged (reedited) their posts, maybe you should do the same (joke) Tongue Imo If you feel harmed you should ask for rehabilitation but not by offtopic statements.

No offence, GL.

- Gentelmans, we are dealing with someone here who has absolutely no life..
- How do you kill that which has no life..?

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And I've just found that we are nexus team mates xD So no offence x2 Tongue

- Gentelmans, we are dealing with someone here who has absolutely no life..
- How do you kill that which has no life..?

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koszmit, take care, he is quick in changing terms from nationalist to racist Confused

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At the moment all is investigated.....soon we will make the final decision about dsharpe.
We are making last tests and all that....so wait all.


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Finally Happy now I can sit back and relax, that's the only thing i was waiting for.
For any reaction from ranking mods :E
I dont even care if he cheats or not, I want it to be fair.

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-C4-KOSZMIT wrote:

James believe me I am not nationalist..............

 

Ok man, no problem.  Your statement seemed a bit offensive at first......... It was just a misunderstanding Big smile

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Go practice your dunks michael.

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still awaiting test results from darky..... tick tock tick tock tick tock...

even though i already know the answer Winking

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