dsharpe final evidence.

First of all, I'm going to post my 100% evidence and then I actually will answer to all wrong statements been around. Eventhough I am practically not allowed to provide that much Info I will simply give it (in fact, camel mentioned more then he should also in his vid - If you have enough brain you can draw the conclusion yourself)

Truth is, we have been testing various anticheats around in quake3 mods (for example antibot) and the E+ beta supporting them runs actually on servers of Aim Root, such as rail4ever or Aim Freeze.

Anyways, 1 day before I accused dsharp I seen him play a bit tdm and 2-3 stuff looked odd so i decided to trick him playing with me on aim freeze next day to run the anti cheater test on him.

If anybody wonders what has been odd is that if dsharp does a bit of flickshooting, his rail always hits on the edge of enemy hitbox when his crosshair is moving over it, then it moves even further over the enemy and moves back afterwards.

The odd thing is, that normal people flickshoot, trigger when they think they are ON the enemy (not on the edge) and move back instantly, ergo the rythm is move mouse towards enemy, stop mouse, shoot, move mouse back to normal.

Dsharp's rythm was move mouse towards enemy, shoot while it still moves, stop after having crossed the enemy moving back to normal.

Anyways, as I was on Aim freeze with him, I instantly got these reports:

Cheater B report equals Autoshoot

Id 13 was dsharp -> http://img181.imageshack.us/i/shot0341lq.jpg/

From my experience, the kind of antibot we used has no flaws considering Autoshoots, Mirc and me checked beer freezer 2 maps long for example, 13 players, over 40 minutes gaming, not a single report.

Dsharp had over 4 reports within short period of time (recognise both reports above are still first round), the 2 other reports are in demo besides other facts.

I also checked some jordan fakenickers which didn't have a single report either, neither had marcus/laktos/mirc/fala, nor anyone else big I scanned. ( for example, i didn't scan blade. )

Another guy who got caught by this scan is notrogen (people thought it anyways) and also dok sberla. There is Zero doubt from the technically side all 3 cheat with autoshoot.

I actually wanted to wait for release of the beta which would cause a drop for cheating for dsharp on all servers with enabled support. But somehow the situation went out of my hands. This blog entry is just for getting the bullshit cleared up some people caused.

If anybody still believes dsharp is clean, let him show evidence of his UT progaming past where he also used custom hacks prolly if he ever played there.

Now to all false statements.

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skull when you had 1v1 on dm17 last year sometime why didnt you say anything then? And dsharpe beat you that day and you said nothing, but now this?

it was after midnight and i was pretty tired, beside the fact my dm17 skills are rusty since new spawn system where i stopped playing dm17 mostly because of retard spawn system causing spawns behind you.

also considering the fact he got very low sens made the beating on dm17 possible, besides that, after the dm17 duel I raped him on dm2 with 66 - 37. Demo Avaible on Request ( ps: date was imo 18.4.2010)

Therefor I didn't expect anything besides that and monkey said he was pro from ut99 which I didn't check either.

He was very lucky that I actually never tested him with the tools I had. Remember, If you can beat someone quite normal you will not find anything suspicious, thats what being human is about. It applys to all people who actually told me this or that guy cheats, especially to dsharp who just accused whole mr of hacking.

Same story was in past with TNT diablo.

DSHARPEST wrote:

And i beat skull after playing 8 months dm17 2 maps with demo's which he recorded and viewed in slow motion many times.

I can't remember watching them slow motion, maybe I did, but I'm 100% sure I didn't watch it more then ONE time. besides that I probably just watched out for wallhack since I don't care about toggled Autoshoots for quite some time now.

DSHARPEST wrote:

#1DM17 a wh is useless #2 autoshoot with a BFG ?

Wh is effective on dm17, watch d1s/snygg/wit etc.

Autoshoot with bfg is also quite possible, just watch ncql youtube vid mentioned in catching cheaters, combined with the green box its 100 percent effective.

DSHARPEST wrote:

Always an excuse, skull you should join [MR]. and be called Paranoid. BFG station takes skill and you always refused to play me there.

Bfg station takes ping to win. I do have the skill necessary as seen on some vids where I did airrockets which are quite harder ingame then playing one weapon map only.

DSHARPEST wrote:

I am still the best there is now at this present moment in time in e+.

considering the fact I have been top around in e5r and you never really beat me on a closed map even with your cheats... err, no comment. Just a wannabe.

DSHARPEST wrote:

He involved my dead brother in this, so skullfuck him. Ban me for language so what.

And now I dropped my nuke on you blowing your cover away showing you peeing on your brothers grave. You just don't have honor since noone taught you, you haven't been educated to have the honor of someone else.

DSHARPEST wrote:

I'm done with this bullshit skull you coder.

I'm not the coder, I am the guy with the ideas, thats been how I done all stuff in E+, starting from gaming, learning, training and busting cheaters. I mostly have the idea I need for doing what I want.

DSHARPEST wrote:

-UT99 anti cheat coders had v good skill o.O... q3 anti cheat coder has inhuman skill? simularity dejavu ?

you might say we had the better idea's. Best q3 mod coder is some guy who isn't working for this mod.

SEQVENCE wrote:

@skull, hope u know thats not enough to ban anyone

depends on the point of view, if you have access to the raw demo then its more then enough.

Otherwise bans are handed out by server admins and I can NOT make them any permanent anywhere.

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 In addition to the fact that I got accused of cheating along with some of my relatives too by Camel & Skullhead without enough proof, and they never posted anything apologizing or stating that it was a mistake accusing us, and some people still have doubts towards us thanks to the so-called "cheating inspectors."

A cheater busters is always as good as the tools he has on hand. And don't blame Camel, Camel NEVER states his own oppinion, he mostly is translating my arguments to a form the community can understand them, such as shadow. I am thanking him for that, since If i work on something, I do as much as i think is necessary from my position of view, he completes most stuff if he thinks my argument might be misunderstood.

A K L wrote:

just look at this first shoot... he definently heard that enemy (i would hear him)

how about you give us your sound settings then? from my expirience its not possible to hear an enemy dropping down in rl room on overkill while you are so far in the back of pg room.

DSHARPEST wrote:

I do not have contacts to get private/undetetcted custom hacks.

o'rly?

DSHARPEST wrote:

I have my friends here who know me and I'm happy with them.

o'rly?

DSHARPEST wrote:

Get on any game and I'm considered high skill ( I guess i have custom hacks for all ? )

even with autoshoot I would totally consider you average in E+, besides your hitting you have nearly zero tactical skill nor you are as fast as an normal player in E+, you mostly react slower.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

I just want to say, that i am wondering, that skull is accusing people of cheating when he lost a 1v1 vs this person.

1st case, September 2009, vs narcyz

2nd case, November 2010, vs dsharpe

I am pretty much sure he has privatly accused marcus when he lost vs him, but marcus has too much reputation to be accused with randam demos/vids.

get your facts straight, as mentioned above, the game vs dsharpe was way in the past.

The game vs narcyz I played while having not slept that night (don't forgett that, honestly, my lesssleep in nick was based on waking up 5 or 6 o clock in the afternoon the day before, was so late i decided not sleep and didn't even expect to get to the finals in the cup - so much about skill differences.) and I'm still convinced that the shoot narc done wasn't clean

About Marcus, I never felt like him cheating, I can list tons of reason why not starting with faith being his brother.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

Again, i am just wondering, post is not based on any facts.

ah, rite Winking

mow Q [EN] wrote:

If dsharpe is really cheating, i will be one of the first who spit vitually in his face, but based on what i did read in different threads, there is no solid proof nor a reasonable explanation, and i wonder how a person can accuse smo in public, but keep his accumulated evidence material in private.

hf spitting on him, but please, instead of keeping evidence use the term has to keep evidence private, ty.

mow Q [EN] wrote:

Btw, skull is cheating, he killed 4 people in a row with flick-shots in a war. Proof is somewhere in this forum, he made also a video about it Winking Winking

hmm, I guess you mean this both:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U_1ZCf8gXc

http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/sfc-f2b-2-0-da-28-07-2010

somewhere on dm7.

Quote:

"hard to play vs camper on shit map with loud mp3"

Hail to all metal fans Wave stand up and beat the n00bs down, metal is war!

anyways, If you guys want the counter example of the flickshooting dsharp does, here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZkBI-46uhw

any good player would have hit in that situation or at least shot, but dsharpes crosshair didn't touch the enemy -> no shooting, you might compare with merky.

so thats it from my side, guess the nuke blown up your whole name.

ps: thumbs up to anyone who trusted me.

pps: sry d3v.

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It would be fantastic tool for catching cheaters for sever admins. I hope it's not giving false positive results. Gl with it.

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Call me paranoid, but am i wrong in thinking that lack of disclosure in regards to how this new anticheat works or what it even is, gives the people that came up with it the power to brand anyone they want as a cheater? Unless everyone is content with giving that kind of power to several individuals that couldn't care less about ruining someone's reputation just because they didn't like something they said to them, for example.

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Madbringer u r pidar or what?

P_LZ STOP RETARD, IS FLICKSHOT WITH AUTOSHOOT PLZ READ COMMENT U R IDIOT

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hahahaha Xd

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..build a robot who control ppl? we have mow!

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ROFL STOPE :!: ADMIN BANN IT RACISTS Arrow BAN PLX OMG I READ HE READ NO DEVIL SPERM ON FACE BAN EXACLY :!: :!: :!:

ps. don't give a shit about dSharpe, i just don't buy the "he he we have new way to catch cheaters but we won't tell you guise how it works xD trust us TRUST US" crap. Or maybe the e+ commoners are even more gullible than i thought because, seriously, why the fuck am i the first to point this out.

But oh well, if it works for them....

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mad, you're not the first to think that way, for sure Tongue


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like 2 months after Call me

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SHUDDER wrote:
People are training hard to hide their autoshoot so well while gain enough skills to win (or at least compete on similar level) without them. This is getting insane or provoked. I feel like I would cut myself with Ockham's Razor if I claim a cheat there.

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Well, good thing is, i believe Skull has just enough integrity to him to not abuse that. Bad news is, most other people in the so called e+ elite, don't.

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For me it would be enough if smo who knows unlagged system specifics was involved, because if this thingy is checking hitbox edge hits then I would like to be sure that it isn't caused by some client/server position differences. For example when you spec smo claiming he hit opp and server didnt count it you see clearly missed shot.

I tend to believe there is some cheat using this prediction error that makes player's pov differ from servers'.

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Re: dsharpe final evidence.

This reminds me of the people that actually thought plus cfg had been
tailormade to suit "KO campstyle". The modern version is "good players
conspiracy" á la Kid. Because it's possible I guess it has to be true for some people.

For the thingie itself I can imagine a couple of reason for it not being
leaked. 1 is obviously the element of surprise, trying to get as many
to fall in the trap before it's widely known. This seems kinda
superflous now that some people couldn't keep quiet about. The second
thing is to withold the info of how it works so people can't by-pass it.

That said I think proof should be posted in public. And anyone invited to beta testing forum has access to it, so I doubt it is some huge secret by now.

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Fair enough.