A storm of ignorance

Being confronted by hilarious and bloody noobish behaviours/sayings/accusations of people, i just thought about writing a blogpost about the veil of ignorance drawn over the E+ community...

"Prejudice is the child of ignorance" by William Hazzlit ( a british writer famous of his humanistic essays)

Lets start about what ignorance i am talking about... the definition to this word differs depending on context.. I am talking about the lack of willingness to accept a choice made and formed by more than 50% of this community...

It seems like people in here, are becoming more and more narrow-minded...The only thing they see is what they WANT to see...

Some people, we know who, accuse old-schoolers, for being ignorant and using their reputation to stomp on the "low level" players suggestions/oppinions....These people just like being the victim in a case..
It doesnt matter WHAT way, HOW, WHAT and WHEN you say, they just stretch the other players WORDS, and start instulting and talking about him/her and putting everyone of his friends/clanmates into 1 fucking melting pot...Guess who is the ignorant?

A clear way of how democracy works, if 80 people like the TEST.cfg and 20 people dont, means that the TEST.cfg will stay on server....Since you 20 people cant do anything grin and bear with the situation...
Then some of the 20 people start flaming about switch time, spawnprotection, friendlyfire and get confronted either by the rest 80's or creator/helper of the TEST.cfg, who dont share the same oppinion, and again.

" they just use their reputation, their knowledge (which by the way is FREE to learn through google) and declines some1s suggestion"

Lets talk a little bit more specific....plusN config (which is based on old e+ configs)... switchtime whining (which is all about timing in the end), lg-sg-lg shit.... and that people are not willing to accept new configs...

BULLSHIT

Take bananarail.cfg... An awesome config, really fun to play... and a NEW one, all people play on it....creators of plusn, lovers of plusn, haters of plusn...

So flamers, did u see any oldschooler or any1 trying to do ANYTHING AGAINST this cfg?
It was a new suggestion of a new clan, who no1 knew about Tongue and no1 stopmed on it...

Another example...

If the flamers say that some specific known people are not willing for new things...why are there so many maps on every server? cpm maps, custom maps??

Those little things, which are working against the flamers attitude, are overlooked...

Anyway I am not really in the mood anymore to write other examples and go further in it

I just have to say that people stop accusing anyone and for fuckings sake dont twist other peoples word ( this i personally refer to ZMB*KID)

Not everyone shares the same oppinion with you (general speaking).. So be ready to take criticism like a man and discuss it privately (not on servers for eg) or in forum...and dont act childish flaming around...

cheers

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Re: A storm of ignorance

The difference is, skull is going into one problem with kid, and not exclusivly talking about problems with weaponswitchtimes in general.

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and my addition confirms that there is a real problem and not only imagination on kids side.. Winking

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Well, the problem is actually not a "problem".

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it's a feature?

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It's offtopic posting Love struck

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what is the topic?

i see a rant about how low-skilled players feel underrepresented in decisions ... and well.. it is correct that some have this feeling, and it is correct that some go much to far in their posts showing such feelings..

but i dont think that this is ignorance.. its more like realizing the futility.. it is hard to have fun in a gameing comunity where one is disrespected.. this leads to frustration and in turn to more alianating behaviour..

i dont see how this blog can help the issue.. and i dont see how anything can be done to resolve the whole "how to find ones place in a community and understanding the rationale of not only oneself but of all other posters as well"..

the only thing i see productive about this topic is to address more briefly detailed aspects that come up from time to time and are either dismissed or controversly discussed..

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P-ERK *WGVD*,

i have already answered those questions why it is this way couple of times, but people didn't bother to read or ignored what i have said

guess i even had answered about it to the Kid directly in some of those plusN questions in a plusN topic, hope u do understand why i feel it is pointless to do it once again?

I'll do it one more time when i will arrive to home, in a really detailed way

I am addicted to life.

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"i have already answered those questions why it is this way couple of times, but people didn't bother to read or ignored what i have said"
which brings us back to my suggestion. I figure you guys got more strings to pull to make it happen, I don't mind talkin to mods but knowing how it goes around here from my brief but good experience, it will have less chances of ever happening.

The liver is evil... It must be punished...

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guess i even had answered about it to the Kid directly in some of those plusN questions in a plusN topic, hope u do understand why i feel it is pointless to do it once again?

ofc i understand, and it was no criticism of you..

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first of all the differences:

_______ raising time ____ drooping time ____
plusN ___ 254ms ___________ 0ms
__ e5r ___ 149ms ___________ 0ms

- if the only one difference between switch times is actually the raising time why on e5r u do not feel the delay?

- because 150ms is a reaction time of a superman, 99% of people can't even reach that time, if u get used to e5r this is obvious u trying to shot 100ms sooner as this is possible in plusN

if u going to claim Yours reaction time is below 150ms then u are probably superman... but if u have learned to press a combinations of keys then it can be done lower than 150ms between key presses but then it is not a reaction on a animation... if u still going to claim u can be faster then 150ms and react on animation change lower than 150ms try for example humanbenchmark reaction test this going to bring u back on the earth mr.superman Winking

- ok so in both configs there is a delay caused by the same way, so the theory about that plusN handles switch-times different way is false!

- why i can't made weapon raising animation played after raising time will pass not before this going to happen?

- because i can't made that in a config simple as that! the same method of weapons animation is used in every config

- also every animation have 2 levels:
lv.1. animation is played to a moment when u still need wait to fire, u can clearly see the gun is not fully pulled out and not ready to fire yet

.lv2. animation is finished after the raising time passed and then the gun is fully pulled out

u can observe it on Your own by setting bigger raising time in e5r.cfg for example, try 500ms and observe how the animation is played

clear enough? Big grin

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