Spectators are kicked when the server is full, Beer is a 14 slot server (with 2 priv slots, and once upon a golden time it was 16 slot) and somehow people think they have the right to take up a place for people wanting to play. An autokick function after 5 minutes was introduced after much external pressure to do so.

Kid of course, decides to read into that whatever insanity plagues his brain at the moment. What is so provoking is that he doesn't have a single point right, at all. The situation was the same when Reno had the server in 2007. If it was up to me it would be a 2 minute time, not that it has any bearing on his theoretical point. Besides, Beer is rarely full these days. It's these kinds of details Kid overlooks in his quest for idiocy.

yes, this is wrong on so many levels.
ofc the 5 min autokick is a great implementation and yes beer is rarely full these days and there really aren't many servers around since years.
one could argue that autokick would even help getting players to other servers.
but mr, you seriously gotta stop conspiring and stuff.

what is the problem? spec players?

heh almost like each server from server spider is fully occupied by players and spectators day after day, lol, if i remember well only once i cant join to era ftag server cause all player slots were busy and it was maybe 10 spectators (that was really not cool true) but in generall it is happening very rarely (for me once), other servers are deep empty and the wind is blowing around ther spectators and players slots... soon will say: pls come on at least on spectator cause server is so empty!!

about beer? am i wrong or there is autokick on spec mode? that after some time the spectator can be dropped from server, btw there are almost always only players not spectators.

so whats the big deal with spectators
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btw: come at vanilla servers there is always nice atmosphere and good players and great fun@

Well, i always thought Kid was a bit delusional and wacky, but this goes beyond that. Holy shit. I'd say this is funny but i can't laugh at genuine insanity.

Anyway, like there wasn't basically always a single plus tag server that hogged all the players. Except for the period where aim freeze server managed to somehow attract numbers similar to the competition. And for the longest time, nobody did jack shit about spectators. I remember back in 2!s freeze days you sometimes had up to half the players in spec, chatting and doing fuck all. Same on Deex, hell, towards the end that's all people were doing on the server. And if what you wanted to do was to play, you were basically fucked.

Kid, sorry to break it to you, but the reason why people are not playing on other servers is not autokick or any other imaginary reason you might have concocted in your mind - it's because it's 2012 (almost 2013) and too many people have moved on from E+, and even though there were hardly any periods in E+ activity to simultaneously fill several different servers up, there used to be a lot more players around this place. Wake up.

only 1 disadvantage of kicking spectators is that more and more ppl prefer to be away just after joining a red/blue team rather than be in spec. AFK for 2 min. kick is good idea though. But players who are away in game should be directly kicked than force them to spec.