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7. November 2007 - 14:28
#21
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You're one to point out the language i use...
Believe, as in, believe that he is not the sweet old man you think he is.
Anyway, that's the last i comment on this whole thing. I will not hide the fact that i'm happy that he's gone.
7. November 2007 - 14:32
#22
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Well i dont think rena is banned because of his behavior or something , if u dont like the art of someone u can just ignore him , some people in e+ for exemple madbringer or leuthkea have posts wich 80% or 85% is only provocating or making people to idiots, but one of them is even a moderator, because he always supports opinions of term , what rena didn’t do.
And I really doesn’t care what the both had in theier conversation in msn coz forum is undependend and u cant ban someone in forum because something he did something wrong somewhere else OR BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS YOU!!! And anyway rena isn’t the first one wich get definatly banned from term just because he had another opinion then him .
That term locked and erased the very normal topic of rena : http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=19356&highlight= and bann him after is saying everything about democratie !
Of course rena did some mistakes , humain nature and nobody is perfect as we all , but this guy did a lot and a lot for e+ and imo he had a big part for improving of e+ and banning him in this way is such a big shame for e+ !
In the name of OSC we wont give a peace until rena get unbanned again
MadMaster
7. November 2007 - 14:37
#23
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wrote:Rena has had a few underlying issues with the rules & guidelines of this site as well as moderation etiquette amongst the moderation team.
Unfortunately Rena has never spoken up about his issues and as such, taken action against the moderation team in recent times which I will not ellaborate at this time.
Preventative action has been taken - he has been banned temporarily.
This pretty much sums it all up.
As Term said there were a few long-lasting issues with Rena inside the moderation team. The temporary ban decision came in as a build-up of his past actions and insults towards some of the moderation team members and to avoid one of his already known "world-against-rena-topics". The moderation team has also received quite a few complaints which have been brought to discussion with Rena, ending without any real cooperation from his behalf.
The vast majority of you are not familiar with all the facts and you may see this decision as being somewhat radical, but rest assured it was just rational.
This is the final statement from the moderation team.
On a personal note I wish Rena the best of luck in his future endeavors and thank him for all the good work he has put in the Clan Rank and not only.
7. November 2007 - 14:37
#24
Germany
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i have to say, renatalis done a lot of good things to the community itself, his biggest thing was the ranking.
anyways, i never came along with him cuz of some things, like the ban from a server thing.
if im happy if hes gone? dunno, in the end i ignored him anyways, i skipped his posts etc.
edit: ah y, forgott, rena also kicked me once from a server due to cheating ']
7. November 2007 - 14:43
#25
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Rena has bad sides and good sides like every1 has . I saw them both 
As what he did for the comunity was a good thing, keepin teh rankin nice and clean, very easy to see a clan standings, a nice design and was fast updated in the past. Atm i think he was busy and didnt got that much time . Anyway as I said he did a good work for e+
Also that e+ newspaper was a nice thing as long as it worked .
As a person is social but he reacts like he has the power and its only him around. There were flames in which he started suddenly saying bad words about me(tho when these things happened went down on his level in that moment ) . It wasnt only me that got flame by Rena, there were others like Mad & Shady, Tartaros, Mow and Skull if im not wrong. Maybe there were others but dunno . And those were only on forum .
And till now flame wars(in the last 2 years from when im around) were only including Rena.. thats my opinion .
Those laughing without any sense and never arguing his point were driving me crazy.
He never said he is wrong, but in contrary he attacked.
I kinda understand him, cause most of the ppl go play and less read on forum and mainly u can see only his work, which at Rena is good and every1 who doesnt use forum often think Rena is the best, is the God in e+ and made him feel stronger.. but that hadnt had to make him look from up at us and when smth it wasnt like him he was laughing and insulting :roll: .
And once ive received smth like a yellow card till a temp ban and rena didnt and we both act childish.. all i got from the mod(doesnt matter the name) who did it, said that rena is protected by term and he can be banned only if doing smth major.. dont really now what could have been major if insulting is minor(and not insulting only me).
There were screenshots too of him insulting on server.
Not talkin about the ban episode 
. that was .. uh 
Anyway for all those who doesnt now about what flames im talkin I can post links later..
Gl with Bro clan Rena.
cheers,
kraster
7. November 2007 - 14:53
#26
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Guys probably a lot of people here had some issues with him (i stopped talking with him long time ago..), but nevertheless...he did great work. That ranking side was the best thing invented here since i joined...
We know he sometimes acts like our father being angry...but damn, this is probably how most people in his age do..
Moreover...maybe i'm the only one thinking this...but moderation and admin team acts like they have the uber power.
Guys, you should remember that you can moderate yourself if you go on like this just acting like we all are the little childs you're trying to take care of..
You can say what you want, but such behaviour just always pissed people off...
Honestly, for me, i can't accept that person who had such an important function for whole community is banned without giving any good reason to the community!
In addition, banning someone who is not trying to destroy community but to improve, in what way ever, is like running away from soluting problems...
Give us some proper explanation please...
Regards,
Absti 
edit: hm i re-thinked...seeing some moderators behaviour, and seeing Rena's behaviour..throwing that into one pot...it was probably one question of time...
Oh damn, what power does to people even in such senseless internet forums...
My guess: He was banned because he said he wants a orange page layout and moderators wanted another colour...that seems realistic to me....n/c
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7. November 2007 - 14:57
#27
Germany
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wrote:
Honestly, for me, i can't accept that person who had such an important function for whole community is banned without giving any good reason to the community!
In addition, banning someone who is not trying to destroy community but to improve, in what way ever, is like running away from soluting problems...Give us some proper explanation please...
wrote:
Preventative action has been taken - he has been banned temporarily.
dont forgett its a temp ban.
7. November 2007 - 14:59
#28
rena leaving topic
wrote:Honestly, for me, i can't accept that person who had such an important function for whole community is banned without giving any good reason to the community!
In addition, banning someone who is not trying to destroy community but to improve, in what way ever, is like running away from soluting problems...
true :!:
i think he shouldnt be banned at all..ok he had some problems with some ppl but for others he was a good friend
doesnt everyone have his problems?
unbann him term
wrote:
Preventative action has been taken - he has been banned temporarily.
dont forgett its a temp ban
even if its an temporary ban .. u wont believe how angry i would get if i would get banned even for just 1 week 
maybe i would even stop playing e+^^
i hope rena wont stop 
coolest clan of e+ : Hyper!
coolest guy of e+ : okinex!
7. November 2007 - 15:01
#29
rena leaving topic
btw how do u ppl can say he did a good job on ranking if he was the only one in charge and u cant compare with other guy. :roll: I mean he did a good job but im sure there are many others in e+ who if they had the chance would do better. It's all a matter of time.. u didn't had to think that much whn putting that cw.txt :roll:
wrote:Give us some proper explanation please...
read trance post .
Quote:
As Term said there were a few long-lasting issues with Rena inside the moderation team. The temporary ban decision came in as a build-up of his past actions and insults towards some of the moderation team members and to avoid one of his already known "world-against-rena-topics". The moderation team has also received quite a few complaints which have been brought to discussion with Rena, ending without any real cooperation from his behalf.
and as Trance said :
Quote:
The vast majority of you are not familiar with all the facts and you may see this decision as being somewhat radical, but rest assured it was just rational.
7. November 2007 - 15:05
#30
rena leaving topic
That are no explanations dude...you could just trash his everybody-against-him-posts..
Kraster...then go, find someone who makes it better..i'll be interested..
Temporaly or not..what is temporaly? ..
And Trance words are no explanation too...if he says it's rational..maybe, but how can we know? When he bans you and say's it was was rational...?
Insults of moderation team..damn i could write now some words i would probably be banned for too.. lol..
The important facts are: What were these insults about? What was the reason, the issue, the problem?
Only there you can see the real reason and if it's justifiable..
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