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12. February 2006 - 12:31
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I have (i think optimal) opinion for the problem recording demos, perhaps i will explain mine.

programs i use:

Q3Demo-recorder (q3drv0.5)

Virtual-dub

Adobe Premiere 6.0

so at first u must set up the demo-recoding tool (default.cfg) thats my cfg i have made for it,

this program records demos (shot tga´s) and when u exit quake it writes these tga´s too an avi file (u choose if uncompressed or with codec) i choose it uncompressed, cause much protgrams like adope premiere/pinacle studo cant read files with codec.

(while this recording u must make things like "slowmotion" or "zoom") with a little bit of timing work its np Winking

so when u have your uncompressed avi file u put it in virtual dub and cut it how u need it in the film, save it (uncompressed) and put it into adobe/pinacle.

i think the settings from this programs each of u must choose urself, i only say (check 100% all settings)

so when u have cuted all avi(Drunk + music and effekts .... together u save it, (my opinion, uncompressed again).

then u put the ready avifile (which has no codec) in virtualdub and cut the last things at intro and outro (if needed) and save it with compression (i use (Xvid MPEG-4 Codec), the finesettings u must choose urself, cause i dont want too steal u whole fun at work Winking

just try it out, i have created some nice avis with it
(dark|angels "best".avi comes out soon) Winking

ps:
if someone want the intros and outros from quakevideo and the whole video + tier videos they are in the pak0.pk3 just unrar the directory video, there are the RoQ files, u can load them in this programmQVM-1.3 videomaker
and compile them into an avi Winking

have fun with that, i hope it helps a little bit

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12. February 2006 - 17:01
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Well done dude!!!!!
but i think its a hard way with all these uncompressed clips Winking i usually compress my tga-pics with DivX 5.02 or now 6 Winking (tool qvm) after i have executed cl_avidemo 25 (Winking PAL)
If you choose a high bitrate (up to 3000kbps) and decode it 3-5 times (possible with DivX) u have a small file which u can handle much easyer...
and u wouldnt loose quality (bec final movie have the same or less quality)
I dont like virtual dub and premiere (there arent enough options Big grin)... i work with tmpgenc (for decoding), Magix 2005/2006, Electronica Live and Resolume (VJ software).
ps: also all sounds from quake are in the pak0.pk3 Winking

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12. February 2006 - 22:47
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[Zer wrote:

Strahli"]Well done dude!!!!!

thx Winking

[Zer wrote:

Strahli"]but i think its a hard way with all these uncompressed clips Winking i usually compress my tga-pics with DivX 5.02 or now 6 Winking (tool qvm) after i have executed cl_avidemo 25 (Winking PAL)

dunno man what i do if i record with 20,25,30, or anything i tried all but that endvid lags like hell, dunno why so i have that little demorecorder from quake (that was my main thing in post) cause its really nice tool which makes avis how u want too (divx,mpeg,xvid,uncompressed and some other things from where nobody has the codec, but some of this "noname" bullshit rox more then divx or something)

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Strahli"]If you choose a high bitrate (up to 3000kbps) and decode it 3-5 times (possible with DivX) u have a small file which u can handle much easyer...

lol u decode it 3-5 times ? omg for what that ? thats really senseless and i bet 20% of quality goes loosing on this

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Strahli"]and u wouldnt loose quality (bec final movie have the same or less quality)

no comment :roll:

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Strahli"]I dont like virtual dub and premiere (there arent enough options Big grin)... i work with tmpgenc (for decoding), Magix 2005/2006, Electronica Live and Resolume (VJ software).

ok i think each his own but no options, lol man such programs like pinacle and this shit has no options but adobe ? oO adobe has more options u need man, dunno perhaps u have tried trial or something but real adobe premiere 6.0 has more options then other programs, if u think ur has more i think iam interested in it, perhaps u can up it for me ? Winking

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Strahli"]ps: also all sounds from quake are in the pak0.pk3 Winking

sure, but u dont understand my information on that, the main thing isn where the vids are, the main thing is how too encode this RoQ files into avi or something needable Winking

all in all u use noobprograms and wanna say me i use Winking
only think i use which i wanna have better one (but its ok) is adobe photoshop all other programs are perfekt, cause i dont takes this programs how they are, if u would know me u would know what iam talking about, programs i only load too see how they work, but the process of them is most not the best so i will mod them little bit ....... dont wanna tell my mysteries Winking i have my own system too work with such little c++ tools Happy

and i only wanna say my opinion for that cause much ppl ask how too record demo and so in forum, and its only easy way i have written there, i use it little bit better and other way, but nobody talks about his specials Tongue

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13. February 2006 - 2:16
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ok, first of all... one of the importanst things is to stay in some standards (codec noobs will never show your movie, if u take an other) so take 25fps for PAL and 30fps for NTFS movies Winking
The codec thing is a long discussion... :roll: but i think, final movie shoud be whatever happens a avi or mpg file.
My words where unclear about DivX - in DivX is possible to re-analyse every frame when u have finished first coding of your clip. so if u decode (or better reanalyse) it 3-5 times you couldnt (neverever!!!) loose quality... it will be better, specially in fast moving clips (like q3 Winking) try it m8... Winking (ps: on divx hp is a introduction to DivX codec... REALLY nice!!!!!)
i havent tried adobe trial Big grin im getting bored about the it (its my business...) i think there are better tools with more options Winking (but every1 should take the tool he likes! and for real - you will need a few month to know adobe premiere really good Winking)
Magix Video DeLuxe 2005/2006 PLUS you can find in your fileshare Winking
Electronica Live (is a vj-tool... is hard to come in Winking) http://www.aestesis.org/mb/
i have also a lot of secrets in my work that i dont want to post here (its my business... and it is hard Big grin jk)

about my noobprograms: Muhahahhaaa!!! try elektronika live and say this again Winking (its cool to make my movies in realtime... thats skill Big grin)
and tmpgenc is "THE" noob-programm that everybody have.... Big grin

but its nice to see a competent topic about videos here Winking

ps: watch the intro of our hp Winking half-day work Winking in a few weeks ill present a q3 movie, but for now im a little bit bussy Winking

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13. February 2006 - 8:43
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Strahli"].... 25fps for PAL and 30fps for NTFS movies Winking....

Its not NTFS cuz its file system but NTSC.

About noob prog. huh everyoen uses own program. The most popular are Sony vegas and adobe premiere. Not is important program but person who uses it!!!

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13. February 2006 - 16:50
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Its not NTFS cuz its file system but NTSC.

i shouldnt write my comments so late at night when im drunken... of course its not NTFS Big grin lalala... :roll:

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About noob prog. huh everyoen uses own program. The most popular are Sony vegas and adobe premiere. Not is important program but person who uses it!!!

agree!!! was just a tip for a mighty tool Big grin i only dont like it much, when any1 says that a prog that he dont is bad... Winking

i worked a year with adobe premiere too Winking

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13. February 2006 - 17:34
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[Zer wrote:
Strahli"].... 25fps for PAL and 30fps for NTFS movies Winking....

Its not NTFS cuz its file system but NTSC.

About noob prog. huh everyoen uses own program. The most popular are Sony vegas and adobe premiere. Not is important program but person who uses it!!!

yes Winking

and @strahli mhh only thing i say for that wait until dark|angels clanmovie is out then u will see, but u dont understand what i wanna do/say with my topic, this programs are only "demos" everyone choose his/her own but many ppl ask what is best programm ..... so i have write my opinion without special settings and tricks cause i think the ppls must do little bit of work their self Happy

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13. February 2006 - 21:35
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im looking forward to your movie Cool
I have understood what u want to say m8. i only want to give some tips too Winking

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13. February 2006 - 22:40
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ok Winking i need some more demos with nice szenes from my m8ts Happy

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14. February 2006 - 2:50
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hehe.... indeed! collecting stuff is one of the hardest things on the way to a movie Big grin

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14. February 2006 - 13:33
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yes sure Happy

i have a program from pinacle it calls Hollywoodstudio FX and u can create ur own special effekts for endings and starting of scene (transitions), but this program isnt really so good how i thought it is and i want too create some of this transitions where it goes in railgun and then over too next scene and so on, u know a better program for creating this transitions ? Happy

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