New clan members comments (nov2008 - may2013)

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well fala, if you really want to discuss stuff with me about AC and its flaws you know how to pm me. Besides I would need to reread a lot of stuff because I am not into e+ since quite some time (because stuff only gets worse and worse here, roughly room for anything to improve).

about broken mouse, it is still possible but more rarely now.

Anyways, the discussion will take longer then actually code a new ac tbh.

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rUnThEoN?! wrote:

about broken mouse, it is still possible but more rarely now.

like i was saying it is reduced to absolute minimum, that's why anyone who claim broken mouse (since my broken mouse does not trigger the AC since year or more of testing and i haven't got rapport even once {before the update i was raported on that mouse at least 1 time a day}) have a chance of 1% to be false positive, does not give nothing to think??? really???

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labruyer wrote:

about zonk, why do insist to compare only one game? aside if u know where enemies are u know where to move to not get killed also its easier to find teammates with wh that higlight thier positions, did he scored that high before? nope he didnt just look the stats of him that u have linked Happy

Insist ? this is the first ive posted about

WH , so why didnt you do demo of him after "your" alarm bell started to ring ?

Stats , the reason of the stats link was to prove the point that he has played the server more than anyother , all players improve with more game time

In real stats , you are ranked 7th on this server , Zonk is 75th no big rise in thathttp://www.nelemans.biz/quake3/gs-era-rail/pub/themes/bismarck/index.php?config=cfg-default.php&sort=skill&start_from=50&hist_rank=

Fala i would say to you and everyone else , if you have any doubts about any player , make a demo , prove that they cheat and they will be banned

That also inclueds any *ELITE'Z* member , a cheat is a cheat and will not be tolerated within our clan

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animalchik wrote:

labruyer wrote:
i was dropped because my mouse button was broken, doing double shots

but u know that we implemented script that difers from bad mouse and autoshot? and since then my mouse wich also doubleclick is no more rapported as as possitive rapport? if u didnt knew u do now Happy

it happened when we were playing cup game against nqe clan, in April 2012

http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/report-cheaters-here-no-comments?page=17

since then i repaired mouse button, cleaned contacts. mouse A4-x750bf in which u can disassemble buttons

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........ nobody did nothing in the cases

The time i administer the 5 servers of Elite'z , i know of two drops within our clan.
Barclay and myself.

Barclay posted his own drop and got surveilled by skull.

And in my case i was so shocked (and full of distrust on the ACS) that i posted on our clan-forum, and contacted skull.

Since, when i am on server, practically always have the data-flow from ACS on screen, i could reproduce what happened deducting it to my actions and the resulting data and get it on screenshots.
PM-ed extensively with skull about the results and progress.
I have the luck that my son and i have the same mouse (Logitich G500), switched mouses and all cleared up at my side, but the same problems began on my son's PC.
(i still have that broken mouse (2-3 phantom clicks after the regular shot) on my son's PC, and if you want i can send it to you, so you will see that false positives are rare -true- but DO exist. And are reproducable)

This week i witnessed three drops of a well known player, but looking at the data i am pretty sure he has a broken mouse too, will inform him about that to get it fixed or replaced.
(Will try to shoot a demo including the data and (hopefully) the drop, so you can see for yourself)

There are NO bans given on single drops on our servers. (you get on our "keep-an-eye-on-you"-list but no ban)
Minimum of two drops. And since i learned more, i take in account more data to establish if its a cheat or not.

In a previous post you asked if the kicks were more when the ng-players came to E+.
Not really. But the closure of Hiszy did!

On FTAG we see rarely drops, more known players play there and the level rises since many good players play there, like Loxo says Winking Players are noticed by team-mates and oponent-team.
DM17, GS FFA R4E and more or less Carnage get much more drops because on "everyone plays for his own"- servers they are more anonymous and the drops are not noted by oponents.... but i filter them out of the logs Winking

Zonk, he plays FTAG every day for long hours, and i play him every day, it's not that he is suddenly from 0% to 100% overnight. It went like all players, gradualy.
He only plays the FTAG, knows the rotation by heart and plays them over and over.
And then all of a sudden he finishes first more and he gets noticed, people who treated him first as a living bot now have a handfull fighting him.
That makes suspicious, i understand that.
But NEVER saw any PROBABLY CHEATER nor drop message from his side. Not one.

I only speak off autoshoots and aimbots, that is what i can analyse with the logs from server and ACS.
Not speaking of WH's because detecting those is an art on its own.

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Good luck mate Winking

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oh really, and tell me since u did changed the mouse why yours skill instead increasing did dropped? Haven't u supposed to play better on better mice?

@fubar, if u would care for cheaters like u say u would ban both mzi and zarzyn, but this ain't going to happen even if their case is kinda obvious. Pay attention also to that your teammates favorite some ppl on server, the last time nymph played she have told me u guys kicked her for bad settings while on the server was 4 other guys that had settings that were violated yours server rules. How possibly this happened? i actually know the answer but what i want to show is a typical double standards behavior.

Anyway, if u feel comfortable with cheats fine by me just stop to pretend u guys actually care for fair play. The thing that actually concerns me is that both rose and darky do use wallhack, but in this case nothing going to happen, hf guys seriously. i already pointed so many directions that if any of u actually care for fair play will at least look what happens "behind the scene", and don't tell me i am only paranoid... in both ng clans i have played i played with cheaters that have dropped and this was documented. Talk with skull what does he thinks about his old ng-teammates that are listed by loxotron as top ng players ;} Those players plays today in oscr cup in various clans. Wonder why rose and darky didn't singed us up to the cup? Maybe because of the lack of the competition, whats is the point to cheat vs cheaters ;P its just to boring. Please talk with Ultima or Mucha they exactly know for what i am talking about...

btw. to the new comment haven't skull is fully sure that rox do use wh? Tongue oh what a coincidence Big grin

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animalchik wrote:

THOR*ELITE'Z* wrote:

oh really, and tell me since u did changed the mouse why yours skill instead increasing did dropped? Haven't u supposed to play better on better mice?

Well actually since 1.8, i like to think that i progressed somewhat...... but obviously not, reading your comment Crying

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btw. to the new comment haven't skull is fully sure that rox do use wh? Tongue oh what a coincidence Big grin

Well its just his opinion, personally i never was kicked by anticheat or by punk buster for violating rules.

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fala , prove to me that anyone cheats on the server and i will ban them , no matter who they are

you talk of so many cheaters , prove them cheaters

anyways im fedup with all this talk , shouls have been in another thread