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Rena, just think, why is it so, it is not without reasons. Stick on ur nose, and u will know it.

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ps3: Noname mods is a good idea too, i saw on other communities. "E+mod1, E+mod2, E+mod3 etc). But it's a tiny community and it would lame to "shuffle" the cards now

what would this achieve? if a mod edits/moves/deletes a post id rather he/she be personally held accountable for that decision.

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{D*R*T} BODZ! wrote:

pretty big noise for nothing. It's funny all these guys that say fuck off to everything, insulting mods and top posters that make this community running properly; and then they say good bye, but hell i 'm not stoping playing i'll stay around Happy.

Me too lol. But I must confess that I couldn't figure out what is the real problem here. I read all the posts on this topic and it's kind of difficult to understand. Maybe I don't follow the forum closely enough. I understood that this has something to do with top posters and moderators but if I had to explain this "problem" in some way for example to my friend here in real life, she would propably laugh at me. All I can say is: Just keep on playing, don't take things so seriously. Happy

One thing which someone mentioned would be ok. The trashcan messages should not be locked. It sounded fun idea. Moderators could just say then: "Just keep on talking in the trashcan!" I bet there would be lots of interesting stuff going on in the trashcan after that. I support this idea. But then there should be another trashcan for real trash. Like in real life you put different trash in different trashcans - biowaste, toxic waste, recycling, etc... Happy

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ps3: Noname mods is a good idea too, i saw on other communities. "E+mod1, E+mod2, E+mod3 etc). But it's a tiny community and it would lame to "shuffle" the cards now

what would this achieve? if a mod edits/moves/deletes a post id rather he/she be personally held accountable for that decision.

If X person becomes a mod tommorow his attitude will change. Where are mad's fun long posts gone? The 3453409 log with the "snapshot" story is still unfinished. I never congratulated him for taking the mod position cause i knew it would cause that - at least i don't remember doing so ;S. (just an example)

As I said one more time in the past, if you have a problem with a mod, gather your facts (NOTHING is deleted) and talk with the admin.

No need to ruin someone's image cause he has to do the dirty job of sticking to the rules.

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eg:

" *thread locked*

Thread locked my E+stuff1 "

If you think it's wrong contact the admin about the actions of E+stuff1.
Just an idea.

ps: If you notice, people judge/ed some of the mods cause of who they are/how they acte while they "aren't mods" and not of their actions as mods.

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Well this is my own point of view, dont hope for real to change nobody just hope that this ppl who feels/thinks diferent of me, dont consider it as crap, shit, cry, laugh or trashed stuff, if u think diferent and are not in the position to talk or so, just think im a diferent and ignor me, because maybe there are another who think this is not only crap and want to talk, etc..

Ok, my suggestion, well, dont sure if i must doit but well, who knows maybe it can taked in a serius way, lets go..

First of all give my F1 to Equis one, i think exaclty the same, ok there are things that are out of rules, spam, etc.. i think is enough for the majour part of the stuf to move it to trash can without lock, and for the minor things when things are out of control, etc. ok this can be locked ofc with the previus warning, this way will not be surprise for nothing.

Ok my suggestion:

I think if im not bad this is a comunity because so much ppl is around and they like to spend his time here, friends, etc.
I know that to take care of this its important to have some rules and ppl who take care of this rules are keeping - Moderators -

Ok, i dont know the exactly number of Moderators and herarchy etc. But what i know are 2 things:

Always will be ppl angry and ppl happy we cant have always all ppl happy or angry.
Im sure there are many many ppl around who want to participate and help here.

Well, i think to try to make this in the best way, we must consider the majour part of the community members, i mean, not only 5 or 6 ppl will moderate others moderators, waht if we have a way when ppl can help to moderate moderators? how? its easy:

We can have a votation system to choose the ppl who must be moderator, and for example, every year we can have votation and choose the ppl who comunity want to keep control.

Points.
Every year we will have moderators votations
Everybody have the oportunity to postulate as moderator and be votated ( I think so much ppl want to participate here)
Ppl who has been moderate can be postulated again (if he did a god job ppl will vote again for hi/she/they , and this way comunity can moderate them)
2 months before the votations, start period of registration on the system votation, and all the ppl who want to participate / be moderator can register on the system
1 mont before the year the registration period is closed and start votations, and we have 20 days to votate for those pppl who we like or we want to be moderator.

1 year later we will have our new moderators taking jobs.
This way we can have a democratic system to: moderate moderators and to chose the ppl who we think can make the job in the best way, and all points of view will be counted.

We only need an aplication to register users who want to postulate, and when votations period start, start to recive votations, and this system will give the automatic results.
only Directors and base forum moderator can have admin rights on it.

OK lets define one example of moderators organization, this is just and example, the organization tree will be the one who define Base General directos with Base forum moderator and General Forum moderatos who knows better the really works that this mean.

Easy Base and General director
Edy Base and General director

Term
Base forum Moderator
( this palce is designed only for Base and General Directors)

Wax General forum moderator
Budman General forum moderator
Wonko General forum moderator
Madbringer General forum moderator
(this moderators take care of all forums and can be elected)
to be General forum moderator u must have one year or more as comunity member

1 support moderator for specific subforum
... support moderator for specific subforum
n.. support moderator for specific subforum
( this moderatros give support and help to general moderators and can be elected)
to be a suport moderator u need have 6 month or more as comunity member

Ok this sugestion can be enriched and is just and example but i bet this is possible and a democratic true way to make more confortable and friendly this forum comunity.

PS. If actual moderators dont have time, i can devolep this application, it can be finished in 10 days. count with me, and if some other developer here want to participate just tell it.
PS. im watching that this topic is keeping open, i hope this will no be trashed when someone consider its eneough, its important to not trash the others words, feelings, etc.. and its part of our comunity.

We has been felling ourself like a drop of water out of the ocean, smalls, weak, etc.
What if we introduce the drop into the ocean?
From that perspective the drop do not feel itself anymore small or weak ... Can u feel what it means?
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=7590772592900521369&hl=es

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This is really a very simple thing guys.

3 Guys developed a mod and a site to support the mod. They have done this for all members. they have given thier support to Term and Deex to run this site and his decisions must be supported by them. Term and Deex have appointed me to Lead the Mod team with thier support and they had the final say.

Term and I have found a group of mods to handle portions of this site.

Even if there was voting by every last member of the site it would still come down to Term and I to agree and get the approval of for example easy.

See link for Mod layout
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=14383

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Well i read in the past that post but now i cant found it so i decided to make an example with non-reals ppl or jobs.

But my sugestion is to change this part of the organization in blue and most of all to change the red one wich afect the forums where all the ppl is taking more.

We has been felling ourself like a drop of water out of the ocean, smalls, weak, etc.
What if we introduce the drop into the ocean?
From that perspective the drop do not feel itself anymore small or weak ... Can u feel what it means?
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=7590772592900521369&hl=es

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Warner do you really think that this should be a popularity contest.

Rotating mods makes the jobs of everyone above them harder.

And then what if a new mod runs amuk, we would have to remove him from that role and that would piss off everyone who voted for him.

Also what are we going to do give you a list of people we think would be good for the job then let the community vote?

Or let the community comprise a list then vote on that list?

Nothing would ever get done this way.

don't get me wrong man. It sounds like a good idea on paper, but if you really think about it, it would never accomplish anything and it would make others jobs harder.

Additional note:

I know I have said this before but anyone who is having issues with a mod, please come talk to me.

If the issues are legit they will always be dealt with.

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I would be interested, what is bad with current moderation (except maybe the closing threads in trashcan, what can be discussed)

- I dont c anything in trash which should not be there
- I dont c modified posts by mods
- I dont c any selfish actions by the mods

The current losers are the mods and not the community.

Nobody needs such insultiv behaviors as from dak-a-rin, or rena (who insulted meanwhile the most of all (to read in a thrashcan thread)), nobody. Not here, not in reallife.

But i am more interested, what is wrong with current mods? Has anyone the balls to speak about it? Who throws the first stone?

€dit:
Budman, doubleposting is not allowed Big grin, "edit" Tongue

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BUDMAN E+ wrote:

Warner do you really think that this should be a popularity contest.

Rotating mods makes the jobs of everyone above them harder.

And then what if a new mod runs amuk, we would have to remove him from that role and that would piss off everyone who voted for him.

Also what are we going to do give you a list of people we think would be good for the job then let the community vote?

Or let the community comprise a list then vote on that list?

Nothing would ever get done this way.

don't get me wrong man. It sounds like a good idea on paper, but if you really think about it, it would never accomplish anything and it would make others jobs harder.

Additional note:

I know I have said this before but anyone who is having issues with a mod, please come talk to me.

If the issues are legit they will always be dealt with.

Yes im sure of that Budman, where so many ppl is participating and sharing spaces, comments, etc., late or early ppl will ask for some rights, participation and organization.

Rotation Mods trugh votation system will not make the things harder for ppl avobe the new elected mods because to postulate he must read an specific section with rules where she/he will read all knowledge to be a moderator. but make things more easy for ppl who is member of this community having a fair way to express her/himself. And think in that, if we have for example 5 palces to be moderator, maybe 1, 2 or the 5 old mods did his work good and the ppl will relect they so maybe we just have only one new or no one new mod because ppl is happy with his job.

If one new mod make bad the job , its easy we need to change it and all can see that he is doing things bad there are rules so ppl will not get angry so we just need to search for a replace mod.

Im not suggesting that u heads mods make a list and we vote, but this is possible too in fact the detayls around this sugestion are job of all not only me. My original sugestion is that every member here have the oportunity to get the job, not only if he is friend of important ppl here but if playing is well knowed and ppl apreciate him and want to give him the oportunity so the idea is to include a registration system where ppl can register itself and choose the job in wich she/he want to participate, and then all the comunity members will vote.

well i really have to go now but later i will back
greetings

We has been felling ourself like a drop of water out of the ocean, smalls, weak, etc.
What if we introduce the drop into the ocean?
From that perspective the drop do not feel itself anymore small or weak ... Can u feel what it means?
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=7590772592900521369&hl=es