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i think that god put the possibility to make your text colorized on purpose.

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What i'm trying to say is, it's every persons own business how they write their posts. And Pan clearly implied by his if's and then's that Rena is an idiot, there's no discussion about it. I know forums where he would be banned for that.

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bah - he wanted me to proove so ... I tried.

And yes - u got the point bout treating from upper level - thats why I wrote what I wrote. If needed Ill do the same again. Actually I just wrote a commomn opinion that flows around. Its just I do say what I dislike Winking

And bout banning - on those forums nothing like that almost never happends, even for more serious things. But anyway - banning would be no real punishment for me - as I think this community fallen down some time ago.

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"Pandora_Ph3": Bah - he wanted me to proove so ... I tried.

And yes - u got the point bout treating from upper level - thats why I wrote what I wrote. If needed Ill do the same again. Actually I just wrote a commomn opinion that flows around. Its just I do say what I dislike Winking

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Please link here some examples where I "treating from upper level" somebody Thinking: And also who are people behinde "common opinion". Anybody here know that I only try to help, and express my opinion (for what I have rights like anybody elese). And anybody here who ask help from me he got it from me if I can help.
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Then I would have to link here half of the topics Winking

Lately you act as u were 'saint cow' using protective tone, para-phylosophical sentences, sharing with 'ultimate wisdom', telling bout being fair while throwing crap elswhere (remember warnerman 3 or 4 topics where u messed drt with mud?). One with a little bit of empathy can clearly sense those thing.

On the other hand you also do great work with Rankings and Newspaper wich is really nicely done. Thou somwhere you lost boundaries between helpfull person and authoritative, all best knowing oracle of truth ( Winking freaky description isnt it? )

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"Pandora_Ph3": Then I would have to link here half of the topics Winking

Lately you act as u were 'saint cow' using protective tone, para-phylosophical sentences, sharing with 'ultimate wisdom', telling bout being fair while throwing crap elswhere (remember warnerman 3 or 4 topics where u messed drt with mud?). One with a little bit of empathy can clearly sense those thing.

On the other hand you also do great work with Rankings and Newspaper wich is really nicely done. Thou somwhere you lost boundaries between helpfull person and authoritative, all best knowing oracle of truth ( Winking freaky description isnt it? )

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Who the hell I am to act as "Saint cow" ? Have some magic power ? What power I have ? I am just one member of E+ as everybody else. I never insult anyone. I will be seriously concerned about my psychical healt in case that all people like me. It is normal that exists people wich dont like me. You obviously dont like me. It is your problem, not mine. Other forums have ignore function. Just ignore me.
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And bout banning - on those forums nothing like that almost never happends, even for more serious things. But anyway - banning would be no real punishment for me - as I think this community fallen down some time ago.

Yes, i know, we need more active and strict admins. Maybe on the new site that will be changed. And i'm not saying you should be banned, lol, no. I'm saying that whatever your private opinion on Rena, you should show him, as a moderator, at least a little respect. Don't get offended, but you accuse Rena for treating ppl from a upper level? What are you doing now, then? Plz, don't be a hypocrite.

And you think this community has fallen? Hm, let's see. We have more servers, more clans, more active players, far better organisation, and less cheaters than ever. Fallen indeed.

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Yes, i know, we need more active and strict admins. Maybe on the new site that will be changed. And i'm not saying you should be banned, lol, no. I'm saying that whatever your private opinion on Rena, you should show him, as a moderator, at least a little respect. Don't get offended, but you accuse Rena for treating ppl from a upper level? What are you doing now, then? Plz, don't be a hypocrite.

And you think this community has fallen? Hm, let's see. We have more servers, more clans, more active players, far better organisation, and less cheaters than ever. Fallen indeed.

For the first part: If being hypocrite is crticizing another hypocrite then sure I am. As I said in some other topics - I usually say what I think. And no - being moderator is no reason to have a kind of special immunity. Also talking bout hipocrysy and Rena - again - go back and read what was written there in Warnerman/DRT topic.

About second part:

You talking bout numbers not the quality. What is now can't even be compared to what was before. More clans? Most of them is semi-active. More servers - yes thats ok - still most of them stands empty a bunch of time. More active players - but where are players of such a format like AllienSummoner or Ogre? Those guys were real authorities without doing anything special, it just came out of them.

Thanks god some ppl are still here. And yes a lot of new players are indeed respectfull ppl.

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And bout banning - on those forums nothing like that almost never happends, even for more serious things. But anyway - banning would be no real punishment for me - as I think this community fallen down some time ago.

Yes, i know, we need more active and strict admins. Maybe on the new site that will be changed. And i'm not saying you should be banned, lol, no. I'm saying that whatever your private opinion on Rena, you should show him, as a moderator, at least a little respect. Don't get offended, but you accuse Rena for treating ppl from a upper level? What are you doing now, then? Plz, don't be a hypocrite.

And you think this community has fallen? Hm, let's see. We have more servers, more clans, more active players, far better organisation, and less cheaters than ever. Fallen indeed.

i was going to post my opinion but madbringer did it for me...im totally agree with this guy and over all in this part "Don't get offended, but you accuse Rena for treating ppl from a upper level? What are you doing now, then? Plz, don't be a hypocrite. "
i wouldnt have said better

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For the first part: If being hypocrite is crticizing another hypocrite then sure I am. As I said in some other topics - I usually say what I think. And no - being moderator is no reason to have a kind of special immunity. Also talking bout hipocrysy and Rena - again - go back and read what was written there in Warnerman/DRT topic.

About second part:

You talking bout numbers not the quality. What is now can't even be compared to what was before. More clans? Most of them is semi-active. More servers - yes thats ok - still most of them stands empty a bunch of time. More active players - but where are players of such a format like AllienSummoner or Ogre? Those guys were real authorities without doing anything special, it just came out of them.

Thanks god some ppl are still here. And yes some percent of new players are indeed respectfull ppl.

I assure you i followed the whole Warnerman thing very carefully. Was Rena too aggressive there? Sure. Did he overreact? Yes, i think so. But was he a hypocrite? No.

I also don't agree with your intake on moderator's community status. It's pretty clear you don't like Rena, and i'll bet it's now likewise, but saying, directly or otherwise, that he's an idiot, is not cool. All the more that atm he's probably our community's hardest worker (in terms of organising and supervising stuff). I'll bet he will accept and understand critics, but insults are another case.

Well, i'm new around here, but perhaps i have one thing you don't, and that's perspective. I don't see stuff here through the prism of "what has been" but i seem them as they are. I don't know Ogre, Alien, Fuser, MagicTL, Carnage, Kraken, Broken and all those other people who for various reasons have abandoned this community. I'll bet most of them were great guys and fine players. You're speaking of authorities - let me note that it's far easier to be one when there are four clans and only a bunch of guys around. Back then, you DIDN'T HAVE to do anything special to get attention. It's different now. I think you should leave the nostalgia behind you and start seeing things as they are - and they are quite good.

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sorry, i dunno how coloured text be can so discussed an bring up personal things, lol. How about play a bit on servers instead of sitting in front of this thread and pressing F5 all 2 min?