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I meant that the community in general is lazy, and people'd rather do what they're used to than try new things. That's why Joy's people server project failed...

I dont think the Peoples-Server failed!!!
I also think it can still live on!
It only needs somethin new and special!

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put something more different on that second server than on first beer serv. ...something like PB "on", or FF "on" (or both)

YEAH ...new ideas!
Try somethin new ...somethin extra-ordinaire!

voted f1 , if another beer freeze attract more people that would be cool ...well im not sure if this will really help however we could try it

Btw,when beer freeze is full, I go with a mate on another servers and playing some 1vs1 in freeze maps (dm7,dm6,dm11 etc) playing there for an hour or so and noone comes ! That was happening on servers like 2sweet,lemon and sometimes in peoples server ...I dont understand why people choose only a specific server and let aside other good servers where everyone has good ping :roll:

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It's just,I dont see why people whine for not being able to play even though they have the opportunity to play somewhere else...why to play in a server which currently has 16/14 people ? why when they see a server with 2/14 they dont join ?

i heard about google. Maybe i visited that page once but i always downloading new maps via quake (if arent downloadable on clan website (for example 2!S website)