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I'm not saying he doesn't cheat (and neither did i with Fairy), i'm saying i haven't seen anything that would make me go 'whoa man, that settles it, this asshole cheats'. At most 'well, that was weird', or 'huh'.

Both you and Mirc seem extremely convinced he did cheat, so just point at the particular moments in the demo to review.

http://mr-clan.net/tempz/accurun.mp4

there u go, this was the point for a few persons, or look my screenshot, through 2 walls straight looking at a frozen enemy.

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I don't want to get bogged down in technicalitites, the demos is to me obvious.

And I'm 100% certain that you cheated this game. I'm not a particularily amazing player but when I'm on a roll ONLY A FEW PEOPLE CAN KEEP UP WITH ME, you are not one of them.

LOLED, seriously...
WHAT FOR THE IDIOTIC LOGIC:
"I AM GOD, YOU - SHIT.
If someone plays better than me - its cheat." And its when you dont know him normally...

When last time u have seen him? 1 year ago ? 2 years mb ?
In this time he can improve the skill, much better than you. Its EXCESSIVEPLUS - mod 4fun, 4noobs.
Its not cpma, where "true fathers" hear you through 3 walls, and knows where you are atm. - This can be improved for many years
Not Yours shit freeze games on 10 maps for 6 years , with stupid NOOBs . Its not skill, it is only camping in one place. And here u waiting, when some NOOB go on yours rail...
In e+ some noobs, which like rail games, always playing on rail servers.(german dm17, german 1v1)
They improve skills for half a year. And their skills are better than some plus 'fathers'. OLOLOLOLO
Some funny screenshots:
http://s05.radikal.ru/i178/0907/d9/b082b1b5eb05.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/0906/84/a944daaab374.jpg
He is playing e+ 6-8 months. They have played 1v1 on r4e cfg (accurun-ligas)
scores was like - 48:49
WTF? They are both cheating ? OLOLOLO
Also , Accurun plays CPMA tournament with pro's. And he never was called - "cheater". Someone is better than he, someone worse. shit happens - all we people...

smooth aimbot+wallhack. With this 'good cheat pak' man must be ownz.
And have many more frags than accurun had on this screenshots - like 65-70.

With fairy it was clear hax. - rail acc 60-70, moving like a shit...
But, how much time i know accurun, he is not always so cool in games.
With good enemies he is playing worse, with noobs ofc he onwz omfg. lol...

So fukkin annoying...

OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

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im sure that he cheats just watch skull's demo with r_shownormals 1 and its f**cking clear for me he cheats fa sho()00oo

Combine the official spokesman of "Edawn Beta Unite Who Simply Hate Eplus and Refuse To Collaborate With E+ Development For Reasons They Can't Quite Explain Themselves But Do It Anyway Cos They Are Following Suit OLOLOLOLOLOLOL" (or EBU WSEH RTCWEDFRTCQETBDIACTFSOLOLOLOLOLOLOL for short), i suddenly detect a lot of care for E+ from you. What happened to your opinion of "letting e+ rot in hell?" with the fact that Mircwar's "Care For All Humanity, and Advanced Care Unit Of Protection Against Unethical Forum Picking On Smaller Groups By Other, Bigger Groups" seems to be malfunctioning as well, which makes the whole thing double as weird.

Don't label me as "Cavalry For Protection Of Accurun" just YET, because i have my doubts myself, yet at the same time i feel inclined to step in and voice the following, non-biased facts:

• Dude DID play in an e5 league, where one of the factors was he submit a demo of himself, checked by Secret ( EN guys are experienced in cheat detection, odin for example could write a book on how those robots work) without being caught. Your average MG-whoring in e5/e6 requires a bit more aim than your average Rail-whoring in Plus/Redawn, so at least Accu can play
• He does play "other mods" which some of our more proud gurus are too "meh" to play (not a biased opinion, Mister Florin doesnt like QL for example), and managed to at least get into BBS which isn't a bad clan.
• He has played quake for a few years and is aware of how to aim, and few fine points of the game
• Has a decent mouse
• He WAS kicked by PB on aim+ serwer
• He has once said "I NO CHET, DUD WITH SAME NAME CHEAT, ALSO BROTHER CHEAT"

None of this of course prove that he doesn't cheat, but at least blow the whole "OMG U NOOB LOL U CANT PLAY AS GOOD AS ME" theory of Mirc's right out of the woods.

Having said all that, demo does look slightly suspicious. (and to a similar extent, the first part of mp4 file where he turns around despite there a wall being in between the east corridor and Central Courtyard... the behind the 2 walls is less convincing to me). But at the same time, a true in-depth demo analysis of any player can show some "hazy moments", and be oblivious of the fact. Yet there's too many facts and "little coincidences" to play it off as a "series of unfortunate events, conspiring due to no fault of his".

Ladies and gentlemen of the Jury, as my closing statement,

I would like to point out that after being given the ultimate ROT KARTE without going on a porn-spamming spree like that turkish guy, and just shrugged his shoulders and moved on. Also his track record in e5 wars is both impressive, yet his MG aim is never too high to question his honesty in playing the game righteously during those cupwars, (also Secret's versatality in dealing with that situation was really mature the way he dealt with it).

Accu deals with this situation cheekily, but at least he's reasonable in this, and at this point, it is even irrelevant whether he cheats or not. What's releavant is:

1) This is a niche mod, and as of such, doesn't even have a general Body of admins ( Link: say hello to my little friend ), and therefore where is he going to get mass-banned from? It is up to the individual admins of each popular server. (that will be Mona and Camel in PLUS and Borg Team in e5 :F )
2) Look where being short-sighted put this ranking in e+. And how those same people being on front page of edawn became the second biggest reason to Edawn not being picked up by a few clans (just to clarify after arax proof-read it, i don't mean foksie... i mean the general response of some clans or individuals refusing to move to Edawn based on the people "allegedly" involved in running Edawn (which could also apply to aNk due to our arrogance of late, but from general outbursts on MSN, there are other people more involved in this, and it's neither "purely mine" nor "my biased" opinion since i a) stopped caring bout the events of last year, and it's not what i got told on few MSNs when i actually cared bout hobo princing as many people into Edawn as possible)

3) He's not some WEIRD EVIL ROBOT ENTITY in e5. It's better to be understanding, but once again it's just up to individual server owners cos we don't have nothing else

What MAGICAL AUTHORITY do we contact bout ban anyway? this is pretty much a niche sandbox the same way Edawn is. Just for different people, and equally destined to fail, unless one gets development and another an active community *cough*

As an ending, here is a how it would look like to an outsider, as harnested from one of aNk troll topics that MIRC so happily besieged with his "caring for every human being in e+" opinions:

(this forum's BBC code didn't have strikethrough and didnt allow HTML code, so i just highlited and put in red what's actually supposed to be strikethrough)

p.s. sorry for being an opinionated prick, but at least i am not a two-faced kurwa about it like some other people.

p.p.s. Short version for people who are redneck and can't pay attention long enough to read whole thing (like phil) :

Well, i failed to actually give a straight up personal conclusion about whether he DOES cheat or not, but if so many people are convinced then i guess that's the trend, and i will follow. All sarcasm aside, high chance that he does cheat, just not sure bout the consequences and how the situation should be handled, that's all.

@ MIRCWAR
I don't think you're a cunt, i just think you're overly opinionated, and find it hard to either draw up a line in-between random forum nitpicking and getting some guy banned from the PLUS (guess he is banned anyway, as mistress's post says and it seems like an 80% (or more) probabilty that he deserved it), but seems that there is sort of a contrast in between "this guy cheats, lets burn him", "edawn people: gtfo out of here with your FILTHY FUCKING SPAM ABOUT IT, GO TO YOUR OWN MOD AND ADVERTISE THERE" and "you ANK guys are too opinionated and i think you are not nice enough". (i didn't look up direct quotes, but that is the general feeling of your messages)