With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

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21. January 2013 - 3:26
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Hello everyone,

I need the opinion of the people with knowledge regarding some issues which could have certain relation to CWs and ranked games, as it could lead to making a new rule for ranked games which probably is (not to allow players playing in CWs to record demos while playing) .... regardless of their need for demos as there will be MVDs to be recorded in ranked games in the first place!!

This also to call them for to stop it if they have it as an automatic command which start at each new game..

First of all, few days ago my clan played a CW versus another clan here in the E+ called extreme, and our clan had to face some major lagging issue...... I am a bit new to this mod, specially to the Ranked games.. as I did play only 5 CWs so far.. the fifth was the one against the extreme clan.... I did face many types of lagging issues during the whole period of time I spent at this mod, but never like the type of lag which I did experience while playing against them as things were unsual and lag was much more obvious from many sides......

I have a friend which is one of their clan members.... TRB also known as Turbo, he happened to be recording a demo during that CW....... we had to assume that the fact he was recording could be part of what was causing the lagging issue.... and we decided to make a test for the knowledge base of this game and if it possibly to be a serious matter..... to take it into consideration and make a new rule about it......

We went to this server 108.61.255.48:27960 and we did play the map twice, once while him recording and another while not.... we decided that he doesn't tell me which one is the one he records at so we see which one lags more..... I had some lagging issues at the first map (but as I have high ping too), and at the second I had the same type of lag (weapons not shooting while aimed straight at him) part of the type of lag I did face while playing a CW against his clan......

As he claim, and I trust him!
First map, recording was on, second map (which I did face the same issue) recording was off

But one thing which could have interrupted our try for the test was that at the second map another player joined the server..... (because I have another issue with spectating) as once people spectate me while playing at some server, I start having more lag

I didn't spend enough time, as I also don't have enough knowledge in scripting or this game or it's mod in order to decide for anything....... we didn't try to turn pure on/off nor PB on/off and check, we need more time with testing, but I also need knowledge and players help and so......

As the issue could be anything or related to many factors..... probably demo recording/ probably not.....
this is why the main topic is made for, if once players start recording demos that affect on the gaming experience of others, then probably to make a new rule about it and not allow players to record in CWs and ranked games...

If that is not the issue, hopefully to figure out what was causing this issue of (no shootings while aimed at the target) and heavy slow movements, weird pointer movement and so....... as it sometimes only work with Rail Gun at snaps...... and with other weapons only while not aimed...... I try many attempts, rail happen to shoot at the moment the crosshair moves away from target

Second, I did introduce the second issue here.. it is about if other players spec me while playing and could that really make or help raise lag or so.........

I need peoples help because of some factors.... first I don't have a powerful PC in order to decide for anything, I don't have enough knowledge I also happen to be so far from all the popular servers and with some not very fast internet connection, people for testing procedures as well

I had this (no shootings while aimed) issue with some certain players along the time I did play this game at this mod, and at the popular servers, but never as obvious as it was at the CW I been speaking about here, nor as obvious as it was while making the test with my friend Turbo......

I will appreciate your time and knowledge for help, and hopefully to reach some conclusion which could help making ranked games more fair for all


Have fun at E+ and never take it with hard feelings no matter how much you lose nor how much stupid or dump or punk or bad or blithering idiot the player you are playing with really is, it's just a game and we are here to have fun and enjoy our times!!

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21. January 2013 - 11:18
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

well its actually the first time i am reading ur whole post Big grin (i did jump some sentences though)

I just think this recording/spectating thing is just a misbelief and conincidance it happened after testing... ( and if u test something like that u ll need to test it on the server u had the problem, as servers vary from locations to pc-hardware etc)

//▲~ GMZ ~▲\\ wrote:


If that is not the issue, hopefully to figure out what was causing this issue of (no shootings while aimed at the target) and heavy slow movements, weird pointer movement and so.......

About this, I had the same issues and I couldnt understand why since i had 40 ping... Well it helped me by lowering the resolution, and the heavy slow movements and pointer movement disappeared (even though my gpu is/was reaaaally powerful enough to run q3 on 1280 x 1024:D)

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21. January 2013 - 15:32
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

It couldnt be demo recording as I know. Anyway there is no tool to check if someone is recording or not. I bet it was PB lag. It happens that PB cause wors lag than usually especially on slow pc. Low down graphic settings and dont forget to close browser and other programs before runing q3 (check also in task manager).

Btw on wich server did you play?

- Gentelmans, we are dealing with someone here who has absolutely no life..
- How do you kill that which has no life..?

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21. January 2013 - 18:17
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//▲~ GMZ ~▲\\ wrote:

Hello everyone,

I need the opinion of the people with knowledge regarding some issues which could have certain relation to CWs and ranked games, as it could lead to making a new rule for ranked games which probably is (not to allow players playing in CWs to record demos while playing) .... regardless of their need for demos as there will be MVDs to be recorded in ranked games in the first place!!

This also to call them for to stop it if they have it as an automatic command which start at each new game..

First of all, few days ago my clan played a CW versus another clan here in the E+ called extreme, and our clan had to face some major lagging issue...... I am a bit new to this mod, specially to the Ranked games.. as I did play only 5 CWs so far.. the fifth was the one against the extreme clan.... I did face many types of lagging issues during the whole period of time I spent at this mod, but never like the type of lag which I did experience while playing against them as things were unsual and lag was much more obvious from many sides......

I have a friend which is one of their clan members.... TRB also known as Turbo, he happened to be recording a demo during that CW....... we had to assume that the fact he was recording could be part of what was causing the lagging issue.... and we decided to make a test for the knowledge base of this game and if it possibly to be a serious matter..... to take it into consideration and make a new rule about it......

We went to this server 108.61.255.48:27960 and we did play the map twice, once while him recording and another while not.... we decided that he doesn't tell me which one is the one he records at so we see which one lags more..... I had some lagging issues at the first map (but as I have high ping too), and at the second I had the same type of lag (weapons not shooting while aimed straight at him) part of the type of lag I did face while playing a CW against his clan......

As he claim, and I trust him!
First map, recording was on, second map (which I did face the same issue) recording was off

But one thing which could have interrupted our try for the test was that at the second map another player joined the server..... (because I have another issue with spectating) as once people spectate me while playing at some server, I start having more lag

I didn't spend enough time, as I also don't have enough knowledge in scripting or this game or it's mod in order to decide for anything....... we didn't try to turn pure on/off nor PB on/off and check, we need more time with testing, but I also need knowledge and players help and so......

As the issue could be anything or related to many factors..... probably demo recording/ probably not.....
this is why the main topic is made for, if once players start recording demos that affect on the gaming experience of others, then probably to make a new rule about it and not allow players to record in CWs and ranked games...

If that is not the issue, hopefully to figure out what was causing this issue of (no shootings while aimed at the target) and heavy slow movements, weird pointer movement and so....... as it sometimes only work with Rail Gun at snaps...... and with other weapons only while not aimed...... I try many attempts, rail happen to shoot at the moment the crosshair moves away from target

Second, I did introduce the second issue here.. it is about if other players spec me while playing and could that really make or help raise lag or so.........

I need peoples help because of some factors.... first I don't have a powerful PC in order to decide for anything, I don't have enough knowledge I also happen to be so far from all the popular servers and with some not very fast internet connection, people for testing procedures as well

I had this (no shootings while aimed) issue with some certain players along the time I did play this game at this mod, and at the popular servers, but never as obvious as it was at the CW I been speaking about here, nor as obvious as it was while making the test with my friend Turbo......

I will appreciate your time and knowledge for help, and hopefully to reach some conclusion which could help making ranked games more fair for all

audiobook pls

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21. January 2013 - 19:06
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

if you have multi core system, make a bat file and let it run quake3.exe in realtime + in only 1 core.

Example my bat file ( intel core i3 550 @ 3.20GHz )

@echo off
 
start /realtime /affinity 8 quake3.exe  +set fs_game excessiveplus +pb_sleep 500 +in_restart +vid_restart +clear

How to make it, open normal text, copy and modify, save as (name).bat put orriginal into quake3.exe folder and a copy on your desktop.

How it works,

start
starts the proces

/realtime
runs quake 3 into preority "realtime" ( highest )

/affinity 8
runs quake 3 only on core 3 ( from my processor )

quake3.exe
opens quake 3

+set fs_game excessiveplus
loads excessiveplus

+pb_sleep 500
makes pb sleepy

+in_restart
makes in_restart ( restarts plugged devices )

+vid_restart
makes a vid_restart

+clear
clears the console from text after startup

Hope this will help and stop the crying about lags...

EDIT: i play on 1920 x 1080 r_mode -1 and have no drops or lags after using this

some screens

NOTE: IF YOUR SYSTEM DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS ITS NOT MY FAULT WHEN YOU HAVE HARDWARE DAMAGE !

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21. January 2013 - 19:30
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

he is talking about MY recording makes HIM lag just to make things clear

silence is better than bullshit

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21. January 2013 - 19:58
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

I believe i solved his problem wich he doesnt understand in the first place along with other people who are having "lags"

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21. January 2013 - 20:15
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....

There was a file going about here somewhere that reduces pb lag, dunno if that would help.
Also cheers Jeff ill try that out my self to see if it makes it smoother for me.

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21. January 2013 - 23:08
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Re: With Regards to CWs and Ranked games....
eu.jeff wrote:


+pb_sleep 500
makes pb sleepy

can details, that makes pb_sleep?

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21. January 2013 - 23:10
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BOPOH wrote:

eu.jeff wrote:

+pb_sleep 500
makes pb sleepy

can details, that makes pb_sleep?

www.google.com

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21. January 2013 - 23:14
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ah u cheater Big grin

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