TR vs PL NC2K11

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dont play for rules we hadnt been agreed for any date and you are telling me "we are waiting you at 21" . i could tell the same to you on saturday but i didnt i waited for you. we were ok for saturday . now we will play tomorrow if you agree or WO for both us....

forgive me but...

u got a answer in the saturday morning short after yours proposal that the saturday is no go and u did answered on that post in the next day sunday that u can't in the sunday (deadline!!!)... so if u would tell u waiting on pl rep while they already did answered to u they won't going to show is some kind of serious misunderstanding on your side, because nobody was forcing u to play in sunday o0

u did have proposed monday, and fate asked u to ask the organization if they allow u for that... dunno if u did asked organization or not, u just wrote u hope they allow for the monday witch kinda was a confirmation u going to be ready for the monday and they (pl rep) were waiting on u, on the server because u did have proposed the day while u haven't showed up at all...

think if u really have a reason to blame anybody else than yourself for the situation?

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hi im not blaming anyone Happy in some positions u may be right but he shouldn't have told us that you are waiting for us at xx server and xx time without both we agreed in it even we didn't show up. but anyway we have also mistakes I agree it was just a hard week for me and I forgot the deadlines are always sundays, so it was 2 late to make something. Even tomorrow I will come to home too late and still dunno what to do . we are not too many players I hardly get the team together but nevermind I will try to manage it sorry for everything Happy best regards

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I do not want to put blame on anyone, but we can clearly see where this is going. You have suggested a date which was after the deadline, isn't this obvious that you are the one who should ask event organisers for a longer deadline? Please remember, there was a full week to arrange our game and since we almost always play on Sundays there was no point for us to take the first step. Even though, we have agreed to play on Monday (as YOU have suggested - post #3) and since you didn't even bother to disagree with the settled date ,we presumed that it suits you.

@FPS: What if Tuesday doesn't suit us at all? Since it is not us who made this 'mistake', it would be a gesture of a good will if we could pick a date which fits us both (a single date, not 'lets just try every single day if we can make it'). Otherwise I don't see any reason why should we get punished since we did no harm whatsoever.

EDIT: Added after reading Exotic's reply, noticed it after posting the original message:

@Exotic: We accept your apology, well, we're all just humans capable of making an error. And I agree, it might be quite confusing to act this way. But you need to understand that such an evening counts for an wasted evening, even for us it's not easy to gather all our players 'just like that'.

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I can explain the deсision.

Both teams were able to play at last week, but couldnt agree at one day.

Noone of teamleaders cared about longering deadline. Here in the cup we have only 7 days deadline for each game, not 9. Its not like u can longer it by your own.

A monday was confirmed by Poland only before 3 hours cw had to start. Thats not how things should be done. Turkey could be availiable for game if you d confirm it at least one day before, but Poland refered Turkey to ask me about longering deadline and didnt do it by themselfs.

Win by WO could be given in 2 cases:
1. If one of teams were inactive during whole week and didnt suggest even one date.
2. If teams agreed at one date, but one of teams didnt came at server or didnt have enough players to start a match.

As I told, a conformation for Monday was given right only before cw had to start and I cant give wo in this case. Both teams are guilty in this situation, not the only one. I wont longer deadline for the rest of the week.

If I would give more days for your game, a big chance it would cause negative effects for round 4, that I definetly dont want.

Thats why I want you to play today and judging on a Polish willing to play the game at Monday, they can choose a standart time (20-22 cet) that feets them.

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I think it is the expected decision we should do whatever needed as I mentioned before I won't be here but I will manage my team to be here on the time you want. I think our time zone is same so we probably agree with your time suggestion. Just make ur decision at least before 4 hours before the CW. Thx

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I am afraid you have mixed the facts, it was the opposite team that proposed a date which violates fixed deadline. It was in their gesture to check with the current event staff if they are going to be allowed to play that day.

It is very inappropriate to suggest, that our leadership did not care about breaking the rules regarding one week rounds. It is our team who took any possible efforts to play this game, which includes calling all the available members, borrowing server and checking with all the available referees (in our case - Rayden).

It is not about whether we confirmed our availability 3 hours or 2 days before, as for the Turkey by all means necessary they should have prepared for that day. Take note that it was not us who asked to prolong the deadline, we have waited for the proposal for the whole week. We have the right to presume that if no contact occurs then the enemy has the possibility to play by the end of the game week (which in our case is Sunday).

There is no point for deadlines if almost nobody respects these things.

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I wonder if i hadnt been posted on 19. November 2011 Saturday, wouldn't you ask for any suggestion day and time ? the whole week for me was full of exams i couldnt take care of game in that week i thought you would suggest day and time before the week starts but i didnt see anything until sat. so i decided to post it myself . my reason why sunday didn't fit us is there was a football match between turkey's biggest football teams so it was impossible to gather my team on sunday otherwise it was best day for us to play sunday as it is our only holiday in week. we should try to solve problem in order not to make another problems imo. there is no problem for our side if you agree for today just leave the past behind and make something useful Happy the link below is for my reason.
http://www.google.com.tr/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=20+kas%C4%B1m+2011+be%C5%9Fikta%C5%9F+galatasaray

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It was reply to FPS comment.

We would obviously, I had planned to suggest this day on Saturday to fulfil cup requirements. Every clan/team that doesn't feel like playing directly on the deadline day should inform their opponent soonest possible. Soon I am going to hit 6 years being here, and as far I remember it was always like that.

I cannot guarantee that we will be able to play this game today, its nearly impossible to gather all the players 'just like that' since I came back home few minutes ago. Remember, its not a clan, we don't see each other frequently.

We'll try to be ready at 21:00.

Update 20:30:

Same server like yesterday. All the details on the previous page.

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gg everyone

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