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female - smoke - 15-18 - 1 package/day

I <3 Camels.


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.aNk/xXxp4l/:bR.Shady'XYN! wrote:


I still dont get it ](*,)...

Is it chewing tobacco... or do you sniff it?

Either way im tempted 2 try it :salute:

Sorry for the late bump, hope noone minds otherwise close this: here's a good instructional video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgQD_6P6fI and also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjm9NNuuVU

If you're interested in further snus action I strongly recommend this one;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBeNCZYfsMk

I belive you can order snus from swedish producers online (when I lived abroad I got weekly deliveries). It's only produced in Sweden, we have a dispensation for it since it's classed as "light narcotics" in the EU.

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Actually, from what i know, it's not as much classified as a narcotic substance, but it's banned in the EU because of health risks consuming it involves (which i find fucked up tbh, i mean, how can it be more dangerous to one's health than cigarettes? Surprise)

Anyway, i really ought to try that stuff someday.. i have a mate that goes to Sweden from time to time to visit his dad, maybe i'll ask him to smuggle some Big grin

oh, and don't worry about bumping/resurrecting old threads, as long as they aren't *ancient*, you have more to say than ";o" or "lol", and don't make a habit out of it, it's fine

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madbringer wrote:

Actually, from what i know, it's not as much classified as a narcotic substance, but it's banned in the EU because of health risks consuming it involves (which i find fucked up tbh, i mean, how can it be more dangerous to one's health than cigarettes? Surprise)

Anyway, i really ought to try that stuff someday.. i have a mate that goes to Sweden from time to time to visit his dad, maybe i'll ask him to smuggle some Big grin

oh, and don't worry about bumping/resurrecting old threads, as long as they aren't *ancient*, you have more to say than ";o" or "lol", and don't make a habit out of it, it's fine

You might be right, the "health risk" argument is being advocated in Brussels and from medical expertise here at home, but the statistics are pretty convincing (tho there is a saying here that there are lies, damn lies and statistics Winking)

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The Swedish Experience

The prevalence of male tobacco use in Sweden is similar to that of many other European countries. However, the risk for men of dying from a tobacco-related disease is less in Sweden than in any other European country. In the scientific community this paradox has been referred to as "the Swedish Experience" and can probably be explained by the unique pattern of tobacco use in Swedish males. Swedish men smoke much less than in other countries but instead use Swedish Snus to a large extent. In fact, Snus use is as common as smoking.

However, the risk for Swedish females of dying from a tobacco-related disease is in level with the risk for women in the rest of Europe. The tobacco consumption pattern of Swedish females is in line with the pattern in other parts of Europe as Swedish females never used Snus to any large extent. This comparison between males and females speaks for the fact that snus is one of the major factors involved in the staggering harm-reduction statistics for Swedish men.

Facts:

* In 1998, 17.1% of adult Swedish males smoked compared with an average of 32% for Denmark and 33.7% for Norway (1).
* In 1997, Swedish snus was used by 19% of the adult male population. Swedish males are the only Europeans to extensively use Swedish snus(2).
* The per capita consumption of tobacco products, grams per person, 15 years +, in 1998 was: Sweden - 1400, Denmark - 1612 and Norway - 1304 (3).
* More users progress from smoking to Swedish Snus than from Swedish Snus to smoking (4).
* Sweden became the first and only country in the world to lower adult smoking prevalence below the WHO target level of 20% before the end of year 2000 (5).
* In 1990, 11% of all male deaths in Sweden were smoking-related compared with an average of 25% in Europe (6).
* In 1990, the risk of a 35 year-old male dying from smoking-related illness before the age of 70 was 4% in Sweden compared with 10% in Denmark and 6% in Norway in 1990. Sweden has an average incidence of smoking-related death amongst women in Europe (7).

The number in brackets refers to the list of references.

This evident difference in tobacco related health effects in Swedish males in relation to males in the rest of Europe implies that the health risks associated with Swedish Snus differ from those known to be associated with smoking. This difference has also been confirmed in recent scientific studies. Even if the studies do not clear Swedish Snus completely from potential negative health effects the reports show a very different picture of Snus related effects than those associated with smoking.

Facts:

* The incidence of lung cancer amongst Swedish males has dropped in the past 20 years. Females have shown an increasing trend on lung cancer (Cool.
* Two epidemiological studies recently performed in Sweden did not show any association between the use of Swedish Snus and oral cancer (9, 10).
* Recent epidemiological studies on gastric cancer and esophageal cancer did not find any association between Swedish Snus and an increased risk of any type of those cancers (11, 12).
* Cancer deaths are not raised amongst Swedish smokeless tobacco (Snus) users compared to non-tobacco users (13).
* The risk of myocardial infarction is not increased in Snus users (14).
* No significant elevation of diastolic blood pressure, hemoglobin concentrations, white cell count, serum cholesterol or triglyceride levels has been found in Snus users. This is in contrast with findings for cigarette smokers (15).
* Both Snus users and smokers face a higher risk of dying from cardiovascular disease than non-users. The risk for Snus users is lower than for smokers (13).
* The health risks associated with Snus are, with a high probability, less than the risks associated with smoking (16, 17).

There has even been some estimates that if the whole European continent would use snus at the same extent as in Sweden dozenz of million lives would be "saved". The negative effects of snus are still a debate here since some reports have shown a conclusive connection between using it and heartdiseases, diabetes and oral cancer...and some on the other side have not . The fact that it's far less harmful than cigarettes is beyond dispute IMO.

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madbringer wrote:

Actually, from what i know, it's not as much classified as a narcotic substance, but it's banned in the EU because of health risks consuming it involves (which i find fucked up tbh, i mean, how can it be more dangerous to one's health than cigarettes? Surprise)

Anyway, i really ought to try that stuff someday.. i have a mate that goes to Sweden from time to time to visit his dad, maybe i'll ask him to smuggle some Big grin

Hmm you might feel a sting if you try it for the first time. you can try if you want, but please.. once you make it to a habit its hard to stop, it makes you agressive if you cant have your preciouse snus. Its expensive too.
If you are used to smoking you might dont get out the nicotine kick, which i think is awesome Big grin
Anyway godluck with finding a shop where you can by snus, there is a website for ordering that stuf fer sure.

You know when its psyen (: