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26. June 2009 - 14:36
#81
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26. June 2009 - 15:28
#83
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I can reduce ur incredible huge post easily on this.
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Science is trying to tell us about this : matter, energy and it laws, calling it as The Universe , and about all this Started with the Big-Bang! Ok, supose all that theories are true.. then mmm, Big Bang of What? What was that thing that just make a big explosin? who put it there? and what thing blew the thing?
I could quote myself here. Mankind has not reached a certain level to understand this. Mankind is simply too stupid to understand this. So, why should I or you be so arrogant, to try to understand it. It is explainable, but NOT yet, if mankind get's chance to exist fruther couple of 10.000 years (if not selfdestroying), than "maybe" mankind will understand it.
We need actually nothing, but living. It is ok, that people search reasons and causes, maybe one day the one or other will be intelligent enough to say what is the truth. Maybe we exist just by an accident of nature, or maybe there is a god or something similiar. But maybe we do just living, because it happened, controlled by nothing.
It is ok to make theories, but all what is posted here are just theories, and nobody on the whole earth can say what is true and what not. And as long nobody can say what is fact and what is fiction, as long i will live my life as i think it is right. (Ofc i care the local laws 
)
Also imo, the whole modern-religion-stuff is caused by TV, through all the sci-fi series, movies, etc..., based on NOTHING.
All what i say is, I believe in nothing, but in myself. If i die, i die, if i get illuminated i get illuminated, if i fart i fart. Why breaking my head with things, which won't proven in my whole life.
This whole thread is totally pointless for me.
26. June 2009 - 16:10
#84
No arrogant = good sheep and Competition = Division
Mowlly moully mouuuuully.. what can i say.....
Dont try to understand nothing, dont be so arrogant to just open your own eyes..
Just relax and Enjoy the World of Competition mate, you know... faaair plaaay! 
Be happy living your live of division and taking care to not broke many local laws.
Health, Peace and Abundance.
26. June 2009 - 18:31
#85
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i dunno ...those scientists/prophets just mix many theories for their own...
takin stuff we all already know and mixin it with some science-fiction;
they either find their way to real scientific work or back to Hollywood! <:
You can surely learn smth from him:
They wanna be informers, but they forget to look at it critical ...
Edit: ur not up-to-date, ppl!- about science and reality-theories!
Even the ppl that ground their theory on those other old theories!
27. July 2009 - 16:03
#86
Fire the Grid, be part of this, enciende la rejilla.
Well all what i can tell about this project its very best explained in the original web page in more than 10 lenguages, so i choose to just share the web and let you all read and take your choise.
Its just important to say tomorrow 28th jul its the last day to participate in this second edition.
Love, Peace and Abundance
27. July 2009 - 16:29
#87
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Well, warnerman, i keep my eyes closed for all those "THEORIES", since my life is running well for my needs. I earn enough, i dont work too much (usually), i have much freetime, i can go to holidays 2 or 3 times a year, i have a beautifull girlfriend, i can say i am relative good in q3 , i have enough friends, i don't need alcohol to have a rocking party, i can speak about feelings and problems with the intim-community arround me (friends, family).
If i would have read this thread when i was 16 or 17, i would have been maybe weak enough to eat all those theories until i would burst.
My oppinion is, anyobody can believe what he wants. It can help through difficult times or offer comfort, give hope or helps to understand things which one does not understand. I believe only in myself, onto my abilities, onto my social intelligence. Belief can not help me more, than I can by myself, or my environment can.
No of these theories will improve my life, it will just make it more complicated. There will be always points at life, which will simply suck, or which will be simply hard, but i am a big boy and will work it out.
PS: What i wanna say, nevertheless, nearly almost every belief wich refers to a creation and higher beings, is somehow moneymaking.
27. July 2009 - 16:43
#88
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mow said pretty much everything that needs to be said.
27. July 2009 - 17:24
#89
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I really try to avoid talking about religion as I cannot accept ppl insulting others religion (flame wars).
But well, I can't stay silent long time.
Many say that they believe only what they see, but as example : ppl don't see gravity and believe in it, cos they see other signs that prove it exists.
Hehe 
, when we talk about god, it's another story. Even if they are a lot and a lot of signs all around the world(Human body itself (too complex to be understood at 100%), animals from all forms and colors wich have each one a role to play in this world, planets, etc...). We live in an equilibrated world.
They say, yeah it's nature wich did all . Suppose it's true, who has created nature ?
...
BIG example :
When a constructor invent a huge machine with 10000 buttons, can u simply use it as the inventor concepted it and wanted ppl to use it ? Or do u need a user-manual ? Ofc you need it else u will break it.
That's why god gave us holy books : how to live in this short first test live good and pass well the test.
That's what I believe, now believe in whatever u want np, it's ur live after all
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27. July 2009 - 17:52
#90
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It's true we don't yet understand how our reality works. However, considering, not so long ago, our ancestors thought thunders were a manifestation of the anger of god, women that could read were witches, and the only cure for schizophrenia was drilling someone's head with a screw, i think we're making progress.
I don't want to engage in a prolonged debate, let me just summarize some points for you: you believe in an entity that condones and approves of slavery, racism, rape, chauvinism, mass murders, wars, child abuse, and intolerance (read the Old Testament if you don't believe me). Having your own set of beliefs automatically means you're the enemy of god and all his faithful.
Not to mention, Christianity obviously borrowed themes, dates and, well, practically everything from religions that came before it. It's an artificial construct designed to control people of small mind, which, during the times of it's conception, were pretty common. I'm not talking out of my ass, either, it's been proven. Why do you think it's in decline?
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I shares many of ur point of views, except the one when u talk about God,
And its not becase i belive or not in God, its just because i belive that another thing that humans must do is to change the actuall concept that we have about what and who is God.
Ofc i do not belive in the concept of God that most people do, and what is too very afected for the religion and society where every one born and grow, got educated, etc..
Im just tryng to delete that concepts wich was given to me for my society and just as u said find the sense of live living it! And while im doing this many interesting things are coming to my eyes/mind/experience while living.
For example, after live, i just cant say God or Creator or whatever u want to call it, dont exist. Why? think about this.
- Ok Religion is now killed for you and me, i mean Religion now has not nothing to give to us, then whats next? Science.
We can see and feel 2 most important things around: matter and energy And another important thing is the laws that affect this both things. so In real we can tell there 3 important things.
Science is trying to tell us about this : matter, energy and it laws, calling it as The Universe , and about all this Started with the Big-Bang!
Ok, supose all that theories are true.. then mmm, Big Bang of What? What was that thing that just make a big explosin? who put it there? and what thing blew the thing?
******** Apart of that lilte missed point, all are happy thinking about there is no God/Cretor, but if that is true, then when we study the behavior of matter and energy throughout the universe after the big explosion IF there is no ONE cretor i mean not many just One cretor, we will see no any relation between the laws that affect the universe in whatever the planeet, galaxy, matter or energy we study, i mean if there is no ONE God, we can see and study many diferents laws that for example affect one glaxy but not ours, all planets, solar sistems, starts, galaxys, etc will be diferents, because they just can be or exist without relying or being affected by the rest of matter or energy in the universe, dont you think so?
Then why absolute All that the human have been study in the universe is afected by exactly the same laws? dont you think this is a big shit to take in consideration?
for moments we have the impression about all in the universe are not connected, all is separated and the space is infinite..
When we say the space is infinity we have the impresion about there are no control or sense in the way it moves and just exist, but NO. Do you think about the Big control and limitation that a simple cycle imposed on the infinite?
All are connected and affected by the same rules, mmmm :-k
And why if we know about religion isnt any more valid we still waiting to see any face or whatever apart of what we see in the universe to belive in any common Creator? The ppl who espect to see any separated entity to belive in Cretor is stiil afected for religions.
because all religions says : God take some material and make the cretion. And that story is in fact ilogical, from where he take that material? he could simply take the material from itself, so the universe (matter, energy and it laws) and the Creator are the same.
So we are now just starting to really understand what is all this, the first step is to identify all the misconceptions that we belive for soo long time and afected us and our society so depply.
We need to review absolute All our concepts, ALL. because all in the deep are based or afected by our beliefs. All our concepts are full of contradictions, for example:
We and our society have been believen about the Competition is good because ir can bring the best of us. so more competition = best society.
but ey, in the deep this means in real: competition = division.
While we believe in competition as the best way to improve ourself as humans, we will perpetuate the Division. We will never can be united. All are in ethernal competition: competition for work, professional, sports, fisical, beliefs, and the best is: internal competition, HA! what a fool world, We are falling now in the Competition with yourself.
D I V I S I O N and thats all!
Think in this with calm... And that is just one of the many many erroneous concepts that we in a blinded way are using every day to live.
PS. A last think about the universe and the concept about its separated and disconected.. We think and live thinking about outher is full of matter, enegy and empty spaces is not? and thats is why we think all are not connected.. then, what is that so big force between: Sun and pluton ? wich keep pluton moving in circles around the sun? is that nothing? or is in fact a biiig force in that aparently blank space? and what about that force that keep all the stars in our gallaxy moving around the center? and all gallaxyes movieng around another center? We can not see that forces (just calling it gravity) but exists and keep all interconected.. is that nothing just because we can see an empty space between the things?
Well imo we need to take the things with calm and start to delete many concepts, we are just starting to understand, negate is not many productive and maybe afirmatting neither.
So lets put all in doubt, without feer, and just let it be to live it.
Love, Peace and Abundance.
We has been felling ourself like a drop of water out of the ocean, smalls, weak, etc.
What if we introduce the drop into the ocean?
From that perspective the drop do not feel itself anymore small or weak ... Can u feel what it means?
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