Question to the Hardware Specialists

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Hi people,

I plan to buy a new PC and I somehow lost the overview about what is hot and what is not. I stumbled upon a PC that sounds promising and I would be grateful if you could tell your opinion about this one.

The CPU is powerful enough i guess and since it's water-cooled I don't need to care much about fan noise. What about the GTX680 and the MSI Z77A-GD65? I have no experience with MSI boards, always had ASUS.

Thanks!

Model...........Gamer's Choice GTX680 Norris Edition
OS..............Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Case............Corsair Graphite CC600TM
Power supply....Corsair Professional Series Modular TX650M
Mainboard.......MSI Z77A-GD65 (Intel Z77 chipset)
Prozessor.......Intel Quad-Core i7 3770K (4,4GHz)
CPU Cooler......Corsair H100
RAM.............16 GB DDR 3 @ 1866 MHz
SSD.............120 GB
HDD.............2 TB
GFX.............NVIDIA GeForce GTX680 2048 MB

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Re: Question to the Hardware Specialists

Hey Bozo,

Side question, how much that PC monster could possibly cost? 2TB HDD is too much for me, 1TB is enough. If your PC happens to be super awesome and I could afford it, I can buy it after Silvester.

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Re: Question to the Hardware Specialists

It must be 2k euros , give or take few hundreds.

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i have bad experience with MSI hardware. When i was working on reclamation department in past, MSI boards and graphic card was returned the most in compare with rest of hardware vendors. If you wanna buy new mobo, i can recommend Asus or Gigabyte. I cant recommend ASRock. MSI is somewhere between this vendors Happy

BTW why you wanna buy 1866MHz RAM if memory controler can run just 1600MHz? If you want more power, buy 1600MHz with lower timings Winking

My experience with water cooling is bad. We built some computers with water cooling sets by corsair and it was more noisy than good air coolers. For example my heatpipe cooler Scythe Ninja 2 is enough powerfull to cool non overclocked i5-2500K fanless. I can just recommend similar air cooler or very big water cooling kit. If its small its noisy how its cooling water in radiator (and pussy pump makes some noise also) Big grin

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Re: Question to the Hardware Specialists

Water cooler still needs a fan to cool the water. That GPU only is around 500 euros. More than i'll ever want to give for whole PC.

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Very good conf'. I would just need more HDD space like +3TB, but it's not expensive to add. Anyway, nice choice, I think you'll not have problems on this computer.

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Re: Question to the Hardware Specialists

Price is 1.899,00 €, which seems reasonable and I have got no problem to pay that money for a good PC.

khaz' wrote:

2TB HDD is too much for me, 1TB is enough.

I already got 3 TB split in 3 internal and 2 external drives and they are all nearly full! Big grin

CZE|BEAZT wrote:

i have bad experience with MSI hardware.

Uh that sounds bad, then again, I never had any piece of hardware from MSI, hence this thread! Happy

CZE|BEAZT wrote:

BTW why you
wanna buy 1866MHz RAM if memory controler can run just 1600MHz? If you
want more power, buy 1600MHz with lower timings Winking

Good point, never thought about that.

CZE|BEAZT wrote:

My experience
with water cooling is bad. We built some computers with water cooling
sets by corsair and it was more noisy than good air coolers.

Yes I want to avoid too much noise. My current PC is quite silent, but still too loud for my taste and I was thinking that a water-cooling system might be more silent.

The thing is, I don't want to build a PC myself any more. Takes too much time and I got lazy by the years and I don't care about the extra bucks. Any experience with PCs from SilentMaxx?

D3L1GH7 wrote:

Very good conf'. I would just need more HDD space like
+3TB, but it's not expensive to add. Anyway, nice choice, I think you'll
not have problems on this computer.

Yes I thought so, too. Maybe I need to test the system in the shop, if it's possible to see if it's really as loud as beazt says.

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I'd be wary of MSI products, i had two MSI motherboards and had various problems with both of them, most notably on one both IDE channels got fucked inexplicably, the other fried 2 gigs of my ram. I tend to take decent care of my hardware, and those were the only two mobos i ever bought that went on the fritz.

Perhaps it was just bad luck and a coincidence, perhaps not, but still, i have to agree with Beazt, i'd pick an Asus or Gigabyte mobo before MSI any day of the week, even if i could save some money on it.

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bigger watercooling set = less noise. dont buy something like this: http://www.corsair.com/en/cpu-cooling-kits/hydro-series-water-cooling-cpu-cooler/hydro-series-h80i-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html

You dont have to try it in shop. It MAKES more noise with higher temperatures than heatpipe cooler with 16 heatpipes and lowspeed fan

Maybe something like this or bigger can be more silent: http://www.corsair.com/en/cpu-cooling-kits/hydro-series-water-cooling-cpu-cooler/hydro-series-h100i-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html

Corsair and some other vendors makes silenced variants of some cases, you can just buy this silenced version. I dont have personal experience with silentmaxx systems

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don't buy msi motherboard, smarter would be buying even asrock, like previously wroten in this topic i also had some problems with msi motherboards

also i have kinda opposite experiences with watercooling, thought my was kinda extreme, the water block was a real decent one, also the water pump was whole in the fluid box so that's eliminated the noise almost completely this was connected to super slow 4x120mm fans with water cooler, and i never worried about temp even if my motherboard had both modded vdd and vcpu to kind of extreme levels

so my water cooling was nothing like u can buy, comparing it to corsair product its like fiat punto vs viper, if u want decent water cooling u should rather bought the elements for it as separate products

btw. use raid for ssd ;}

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Hello Andy,

I bought my new PC, few day's ago, from ARLT. I have almost the same hardware like you. See here post nr. 128 http://www.excessiveplus.net/forums/thread/show-your-pc-here?page=12#comment-409693
I choose a diferent PC case http://de.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001719
The PC case it's a little bit big but it has some features which are not standard for all the PC cases.

Just 1 thing. DON'T BUY A MBOARD FROM MSI!!
ASUS Board's are better. I bought the ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe

ARLT is really a good choice Winking
Good luck with buying your new PC.

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