Camel & GMZ explain Israel genocide

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17. November 2012 - 8:26
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Here's your chance gents, instead of posting propagandist soundbites you can actually formulate your opinion for others to judge. My position is as follows; Hamas refuses to recognize Israel as a state and as such wage a war against the civilian population of Israel.
No country on this green earth would accept without consequence being rocketed & shelled day in and out, as such Israel takes countermeasures to eliminate terrorist capability. If Hamas lay down arms today there would be peace, if Israel did they would be wiped off the map and that is the big difference between the two sides. Not a single war in the past 60 years has been started by Israel, on the contrary it has been ambushed each and every time.

So let's hear it, what is your argument for Hamas and against Israel? I'm hoping it won't be as shallow as saying that they're supported by USA.

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: I just wanted to state that Camel was right while you were wrong about what you both said, as someone who lives in the middle east and knows more than both of you about the situation with respect to both of your knowledge!



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: "When you hear the propaganda, remember this: Palestinians have no army, no navy, no airforce. There is no war, just genocide"

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17. November 2012 - 9:47
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: I had to step out mirco, so didn't have the chance to respond to you!But all along the journey, my chest was about to blow out trying to hide my laugh out loud of what you said xD

No offense meant!! but what you said happened to be super funny!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels

Fajr-5 rockets are made in Iran, disassembled and smuggled into Gaza where they are put together and launched against Israeli civlian targets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFp0Efv5lnI

And while we are bandying about terms like genocide, let's be crystal clear about the situation:

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April 2012
- 4,123 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza- 1,364 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment
March 2012
- 3,653 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza- 1,375 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment- More than 300 Rockets were fired from Gaza at Israel during this period. Around 30 people sustained injuries.
February 2012
- 4,003 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza- 1,326 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment- 27 Rockets fired from Gaza struck Israeli territory during this period. There were no injuries reported.
January 2012
- 4,967 truckloads of goods were delivered from Israel to Gaza- 1,570 Gaza patients (and companions) entered or passed through Israel for medical treatment- 10 Rockets and 8 mortars fired from Gaza struck targets in Israel during this period. No casualties were reported.

And the Hamas M.O. of hiding behind civilians

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17. November 2012 - 12:23
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Yes, i'm sure GMZ's position on Israel will be one of non-bias and moderation. In before pointless walls of text.

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17. November 2012 - 12:41
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madbringer wrote:

Yes, i'm sure GMZ's position on Israel will be one of non-bias and moderation. In before pointless walls of text.

u know i am worry if we have enough hosting space on e+ to carry such topic

I am addicted to life.

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17. November 2012 - 13:21
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17. November 2012 - 14:26
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I'll be sure to check the stream since you are casting, atleast. Good luck. Thanks for your answers guys.

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17. November 2012 - 14:56
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

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17. November 2012 - 17:22
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How about :

This ain't the place at all ? 99.9% chance that topic will lead to a no end trolling (nazi, 2nd WW etc.)We all know discussing over the internet is not appropriate for such topics.

I don't think that conflict is about one country attacking an other one. If you want to get into the discussion, please keep in mind the whole Israel creation process (I mean, which country actually did approve its creation, and which country did not). Add the that secret nuclear researches, secret talks etc.

That debate is way too wide and what we know about it really depends on the country you live in. Information is never objective. and you have to do what what your medias might want to tell you. I guess only people living in this area really are up to date.



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17. November 2012 - 17:34
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I agree, Israel has done plenty of things wrong over the years but when Camel does his drive by of horseshit propaganda* I think he should be called out on it.
*That's the big irony of what he wrote, his post was propaganda of the worst kind backed by the establishment and leftist intelligentsia all over the Western world. He sees it as being some kind of underdog position.

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17. November 2012 - 17:42
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..ZMB..EPYKOI wrote:

How about :

This ain't the place at all ? 99.9% chance that topic will lead to a no end trolling (nazi, 2nd WW etc.)We all know discussing over the internet is not appropriate for such topics.

I don't think that conflict is about one country attacking an other one. If you want to get into the discussion, please keep in mind the whole Israel creation process (I mean, which country actually did approve its creation, and which country did not). Add the that secret nuclear researches, secret talks etc.

That debate is way too wide and what we know about it really depends on the country you live in. Information is never objective. and you have to do what what your medias might want to tell you. I guess only people living in this area really are up to date.

Well said, I agree with you, its almost impossible to talk in here because one and another have own opinion and he will keep it no matter what.

btw I am not on any sides nor Israel nor Palestine
The quote that maked you so angry mircwar was get from this facebook profile
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Irish-Friends-of-Palestine/164790956913702
you forgot to post this nice picture

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17. November 2012 - 17:46
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Yes, and the quote is categorically wrong. Israel does not deliberately target civilians, unlike Hamas. This is an essential difference. You can, and should, be critical of how Israel conducts itself however, and you can criticize the blockade. But it has to be in the context of relentless terror attacks against Israelis.

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