Where to start cheating?

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21. September 2010 - 11:45
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Re: Where to start cheating?

thanks epsi for the functionality description of a soundhack.
the bad thing is that only few server pure Sad but thats a other story.

im general confused about deleting drawname because it was a legal function over few years. i hear of it as we start playing banana cup. there was a foggy map and since then i used it till 2.0 ...
i use it out of habit and it was hard to play without it again.

and yes the question is about the definition of borders for cheating. where it beginn and what is legal.
if we would talk about spam we will never get a answer but about cheating we have to find one.

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21. September 2010 - 14:14
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Re: Where to start cheating?

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what you guys have been doing all the years?

the climax of this discussion are scripts, since they are given by q3, but are an unfair advantage because they are "Inhuman", same as seeing enemys through fog due to xp_drawnames 1.

However, we all know expirience never is a cheat, therefor, single cvars never can be a cheat either as long as they are not glitchy. Neither is strafejumping a cheat, since its not cvar based, tbh, its wanted by id software.

Cheats always have been defined by me as inhuman advantage, its the shortest and prolly best explaination for it.

Same time All stuff the community allows isn't a cheat, so all people play with enemymodels, also because of the reason that normal models are seeable different in different positions, for example its hard to see a red bones in front of a red wall which is a advantage for the red team. So the contrast was maxed for everyone.

About sounds, it would be fair if everyone used them, but since we all want stable gaming conditions from server to server and not all server want to have altered stuff, the basics are better.

About xp_drawnames 1, its way more then a way to easily see enemys through explosions, fog and so on, in fact, you could even wallhack with it. Cheat are just the guys who used it without telling the devs.

You guys might argument now, cg_drawcrosshairnames 1 is cheat now too, because you can see through fog and explosions, but its 1 by default from id software, so eventhough its a bit glitchy is still fair for all people to have it.

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21. September 2010 - 14:25
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Re: Where to start cheating?
eu.jeff wrote:

cheating is everything you can't do on PB

so then a private hack is no cheat as they do work on pb ? ;>

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its the people whos piss me of not the game, im never ever played an game on wich all is perfect to mine preferences there are always things to wich im must get used and acept them as they are no mater i like them or not i will try to understand thier mechanism and use for mine adventage

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21. September 2010 - 15:11
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Re: Where to start cheating?

i play with a lot of custom effects, sounds etc for years now. none of it is necessary, and none of it alows me to do anything unhuman or give me advantage. but i prefer the ones i have compared to the default ones, so i play on unpure servers only. the dafualt seems lame to me now. i'm, against the use of aimbots/wallhacks ofc and i dont use the low explosions pk3 or anything like that. i never liked the drawnames command though, was to distracting (names all over my screen). i disabled that after the first 5 minutes.

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