The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard

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67.19.229.130:27960 Wicked UFT

That's the only one, will see you on yours.

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In the long run its again a thing of trust. So, imo PB servers dont benefit the comunity that much. I, for one, would have never get hooked up on e+ if r0 servers had PB since i never would start to play on them. Now i wouldnt mind PB on r0, but back then...

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we "trusted" alc loco didnt we?

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EVOL.WAX wrote:

we "trusted" alc loco didnt we?

exactly. and he did play on pb servers too. but sooner or later cheaters do get caught. pb helps, but imo ot shouldnt be on most servers. it chases away the fresh meat. Winking

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@Riot it is a very sweeping statement you make about all Admins endorsing not using PB, well I just have to speak up.
I am all in favour of having PB enabled and I would if I had my own server but I dont. I have been Admin for BRO ctf server before and I was told on many occaisions PB was not to be enabled ( I did not agree with this) but because I was only admin and not the owner of the server there was not much I could do. I am now admin on the Ring Zero servers where PB is unfortunatley disabled.
As regards PB, it is not entirely fool proof there are hacks and cheats it cant detect YET, but it is better than no PB.
The Admins of this community do the best they can and band together to stop cheats.
For you to say that the admins are setting a low standard by not endorsing PB is just wrong.
You obviously are quite intelligent and have very strong opinions, but I feel you need to get out there on the BRO servers and Ring Zero servers and get to know that side of the community, show your face.
I have never met you and you seem to be new to this community, so I do feel insulted when a stranger comes in and starts shouting his mouth of before knowing the facts.
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yep totally agree it should not be on all/most but imo it should be on more of them

Just recently more than a few people have said its a shame the evol pb+pure server has gone as they really liked to play there

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well put foxy, but im still one of the guys who isnt too in favour of pb, i like turning it on randomly but thats it really Happy

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DARK wrote:

well put foxy, but im still one of the guys who isnt too in favour of pb, i like turning it on randomly but thats it really Happy

turning it on randomly is great. I think this is the best way to catch cheaters with proof...

but, constantly on? no.. that is not as good.

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@Riot
I am waiting :roll:

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Firefox, we don't all live the net like yourself, I work and have a family other than playing and reading forum's so give me a chance to reply.

Roll your eyes all you like, wether I am new or not make's no odd's. Being a new player is not a requirement for telling the truth. For whatever reason (the reason's are neither here nor there) The majority of the EX+ community admin's choose not to run their server's with Punk Buster enabled and as such they are running a sub standard server setup vs a Punk Buster enabled server (fact).

It's pointless you asking me to play on a non Punkl Busted server, I refuse to play on server's without Punk Buster enabled, in fact I think your effort's would be better spent trying to convince the majority of admin's to enable Punk Buster.

At best only 25% of servers world wide are actually played on at any one time, if it was possible to consolidate those resources and plough it into better server's with Punk Buster enabled then you would have a far better standard of administration and cheat prevention than at present (fact). Although Punk Buster can only detect 99% of cheat's those that are new hack's are soon detected and corrected, as such your hardcore cheater's find new ones and the cycle begin's again but Punk Buster protect's from most, most of the time. The police do not solve all crime's is that a solid case for not having any law enforcement?

Winge and moan all you like I know I am right, the current standard set by the majority of EX+ server's is a very poor one. Deny, moan, have tantrum's and stamp your feet all you want, the fact remain's that non Punk Busted server's offer no protection against cheater's (fact) The facility for admin's to use wallhack to detect cheats's is open for human intereptation and as such is flawed in itself.

I find it an insult to any intelligent adult that you assume you have to have played for a certain amount of time before you could offer up any intellignet argument that suggest's the current standard's are poor. I am suprised that someone hasn't tried to put it accross to the administrator's before in an intellignet capacity, maybe they have? And all that happen's is people have tantrum's? Some might be quite happy to sit back and accept any old bullsh*t that is slung in front of them in a bid to belong, other more intelligent free thinking adult's with tell it how it is and not give a monkey's what anyone else think's if they believe they are telling the truth.

For me this isn't a popularity contest, I came here to air my concern's based upon the truth but the response to the TRUTH, coupled with the overall server standard's are very. very poor indeed, still such is life.