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The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
19. September 2005 - 11:03
#101
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
we dont need anti-cheat software, we have anti-cheat hardware they are called the community admin :twisted:
19. September 2005 - 17:48
#102
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
wrote:we dont need anti-cheat software, we have anti-cheat hardware they are called the community admin :twisted:
THANK YOU SIR! PERFECT ANSWER!
That's going in my sig 
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19. September 2005 - 20:33
#103
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
...that said a member of Bro ( not sure if all bro are admins) stood by stixx or strong or what ever he called himself and said “no way was he cheating2, when he quite obviously was. Not all admins are created equal
19. September 2005 - 22:24
#104
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
how was it spotted that he was cheating? was it through experience or PB?
19. September 2005 - 22:57
#105
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
hmmm, i noticed something strange about styxx and specced but he left, so i ddint get muh of a chance, seems everytime i specced he left, if i played he stayed 
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20. September 2005 - 7:42
#107
![mow Q [EN]](/files/screenname/8646b528fbbe1090dc61e0f29405d1b3.webp "mow Q [EN]"){kind=small}
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
omg, riot.
nobody said seriously that an admin can catch more cheaters as pb.
the big problem with pb is, that q3 is to old. imo the half of this community or more, don't have an original q3. from where do i know that? From userdatabase, in which players have more than 20 or 60 names, from which i know, they must be different persons.
imagine, every e+ servers sets this afternoon pb 1, as it was earlier also in x+, where nearly every server had enabled pb. Servers was and will be empty empty, empty, empty. This community is strong enough, to hold 2-3 pb1-server busy, but not more, just becaues of the fact, so many nubs and also community members have probs with pb.
usually an empty server get's full through joining nubs, further most other players don't join empty servers, so, u find no nubs, cause of probs with pb, based on that, u find no good players, cause they dont join empty servers.
if q3 would be a newer game, i would be on ur side riot, but it's to late for the stuff u wanna produce in here, it would be to much work, to bring the servers running full with pb, even x+ is still no serious mod.
So, let's hope, that pb get delivered together with q4, than u can have guiderelax 0 and servers get still full. and let's hope that x+ will be also made for q4, so than it can produce itself to a much more popular mod as it is now, even x+ is "now" the 4th or 5th most popular mod atm.
20. September 2005 - 11:18
#108
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
OMG riot - you are so right why have we not seen it before OMG OMG
Thank you - Thank you - Thank you for opening our eyes to your amazing world of truths. :roll: :roll: :roll:
as i said earler in this thread - facts - give us facts and we will listen..
try answering each part of the thread and not skipping over those parts which you wish to dismiss.
fact - not accusations of poor and shabby efforts.
20. September 2005 - 17:49
#109
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
I do laugh at the amount of OMG's used in this thread, not from me but from those who seem to feel that adult debate is wrong or I am commiting a crime posting a valid argument. As I said before the issue here is plain for anyone with an educated mind, you would rather I didn't try to argue my case in an organised adult fashion, you despise the fact that I have even attempted to add some structure to this rather old debate. The previous thread's surrounding this issue were hijacked by insult's and moronic behaviour including the same old flannel based on total denil of the fact's, in fact it is the same people who are doing the same again in this thread, as I said a certain element has really hard time managing themselves in a mature fashion coupled with a complete lack or desire to want to set any standard's within the community be it server based or forum based, this also appears to be endorsed by the mod team as well to some degree.
(I will refrain from saying OMG it sound's so camp 
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I find myself having to explain myself time and time again simply because you dodge issues not me, I have stated a few clear fact's.
1) PunkBuster is better at detecting cheater's than community admin's
2) The key community admin's set a poor example to the rest of the community if they choose not to run Punk Buster
I know I am right not because I am a fool blinded by my own ego but because I know that the anti cheat software Even Balance provide IS better than any human admin no matter how experienced he or she is. In fact the best standard's are set by administrator's working with Punk Buster as I have said before. In an effort to bring this thread to some form of conclusion do you still think :
a) Key community admin's are better than Even Balance software at detecting cheat's
By not using Punk Buster you have a far superior standard.
If you agree that both the above statement's can only appear to be true if you yourself are blinded by your own ego and an unwillingness to accept the truth, then the title of this thread and everything I came here to say is true.
"The Community admin's set a poor standard"
(by not using PunkBuster)
wrote:
nobody said seriously that an admin can catch more cheaters as pb.
Point's a & b coupled with the title of this thread also taking into account MowLy's comment give you an excellent platform to justify why not using Punk Buster as an admin is a better standard than having it enabled.
20. September 2005 - 18:27
#110
The Community Admins Set a Poor Standard
whos saying an admin cant catch cheaters more than pb, i have turned pb on and its nothing, even when i have spotted someone using a definate cheat
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The reply came in three flavour's the long explanation for those interested enough to participate in an adult debate, the summary for those who just skip and bullet point's for those who cannot manage anything beyond 'see Spot run'. To cater for an intellect any lower would require colours, shapes and sound's only.
So the long and the shot of it is you consider the experienced community admin's that reside over the non Punkbusted server's to be more capable at detecting cheater's than Punk Buster, this I find laughable but it is your opinion and we can run with this flight of fancy for a minute.
I have explained myself clearly enough and represented a clear case for Punk Buster being used, someone explain to me why it should not be used and why the community admin's are better than Even Balance and their long established anti cheat software.
A lengthy explanation is fine with me I have the reading capacity beyond a 5 year old.