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Well PB haven't prevented new guys to come to the server, and when we notice pb foprce spec on them it oly takes 2 minutes to explain them what to do and how to do it, also I want to let you know that pb don't lag you as others claim, this server gives me the same ping as it was when didn't have pb on and I don't suffer of any lag at all so this is just some kind of missconception.

P.S. when I started playing quake some years ago and pr 1.32 came I never had a hard time to update or have my pb working properly, jsut was matter of hours before someone helped me, so that's no excuse either, when you want to play and find that have some problem you'll try to find help to solve it and be able to play again.

Rofl, most nubs even can't join PB server, cause they get disconected at once after "awaiting snapshot". the few who come through and disconnect after getting 3-4 times forced to spec and leave than i don't count. u can get even probs with pb if u are using default config from q3, rofl, that's not interesting for nubs, they wanna just play and don't wanna have much work with anything.

maybe for u it sounds stupid cause u think u know alot about it, but it's fact, that "most" people (nubs) don't know nothing about it.

I think it is funny that you all talk about new players so much as if that is a valid defense. The fact of the matter is, I see new players on all servers at some time or another, but many of them don't stick around very long.

I doubt that a new player who can't figure out how to use PB will be much use to you anyways. When I get on Mr. Servers and others, I see mostly a lot of the same players playing. On the occasion that I do see a new player it is either a cheater, or someone faking a nickname for one reason or another (both of which are lame.. It pisses people off when a good player fakes a nick... Then complains about being called a cheater... LOL.. idiotic move, makes you look stupid if you ask me..)

Many people in the e+ community aren't nice to new players anyways. You all put them on one team and all the good players on another and beat them to death then laugh like your all such great players.. LOL... (I have seen this so many times, don't tell me it isn't true. When you see all plain names on one team that is losing, and regular e+ players on the other team next time, you will see what I mean :roll: )

New Players will come to this mod if they feel like coming to it reguardless of whether or not PB is enabled. You people are arguing like you have problems with PB. IF you do, maybe you are doing something that it considers a cheat? or maybe you are just too ignorant to figure PB out? Either way, you shouldn't knock it just because a few new players won't stay here.

Anyways. I Love NWC servers, and if I could get my PC fixed I could play on their server more often. The problem I have with PB is not PB or q3s fault, but something that is messed up with my windows.

I agree pb servers are not busy, but , I cant help but wonder why. 90 percent of the people that play e+ seem regulars not noobs and they know how helpful and talkative we all are if they have pb problems. So yes pb scares of noobs but where does everyone else go ?

I know there are lots of people who are borrowing their copy of quake form a friend .....but with guidrelax on that not a problem

evol server is pb enabled and pure....come and play

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I agree pb servers are not busy, but , I cant help but wonder why. 90 percent of the people that play e+ seem regulars not noobs and they know how helpful and talkative we all are if they have pb problems. So yes pb scares of noobs but where does everyone else go ?

heh, i think that wax remember when we r runing cople of days alone on the servers....

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Well PB haven't prevented new guys to come to the server, and when we notice pb foprce spec on them it oly takes 2 minutes to explain them what to do and how to do it, also I want to let you know that pb don't lag you as others claim, this server gives me the same ping as it was when didn't have pb on and I don't suffer of any lag at all so this is just some kind of missconception.

P.S. when I started playing quake some years ago and pr 1.32 came I never had a hard time to update or have my pb working properly, jsut was matter of hours before someone helped me, so that's no excuse either, when you want to play and find that have some problem you'll try to find help to solve it and be able to play again.

Actully no misconception its not just net related PB uses more CPU power on BOTH Client and Server side. To be honest there is a big difference between the NWC servers and Other turkey servers for example with no PB. I assume its because turkey has limited stuff as it does seem to be like a small business. But I assure u its no misconception.