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!!NEW!! Dicussion Mixed Wars
9. October 2006 - 9:57
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Because the old thread is closed and RENA said it is better to open a new one, here it is:
I must admit honestly that the vote does not make me happy in this thread.
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=9708
I have the impression, the people forgot anything about what the ranking is. The ranking exists around to gather all wars and to evaluate all wars.
Without Rena we would have still the old system with which there was only one table. Now we have tables for TDM, FREEZE, CTF and maybe soon also CA.
The point which i do not understand is, how somebody can vote for point 4? This is totally counterproductive and a regress.
Nevertheless, if there are 2 maps played minimum per gametype, where is the problem?
Example:
2 maps Freeze - Result 1:1 = Draw in Freeze-Rank
3 maps TDM - Result 2:1 = win for team I and loss for team II
5 maps overal - Result 3:2 Total win for Team I
If mixed wars can't be ranked anymore we will destroy some great upcoming evenings and will play in a straight box with a low horizon and the black/white thinking has won.
It would be nice to c, which community based and not egoistic facts made some voting for 4! Because this decision concerns the whole Community and it would be a strong incision into the freedom of the clans if they can't decide alone how they play their wars. The arguements i already have read in the old discussionthread;
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=8972
are all based on egoistic facts for own advantage (imo).
Sure, i said, 2!S plays no mixed wars for ranking, but that is what i can decide alone for my CLAN and it doesn't effect all clans, just that who plays us who can live with that or just don't play us than. But if their are 2 mutch votes for version 3 and 4, nobody has the freedom anymore.
So i want to suggest, more community thinking instead as for own advantage.
Greetz
9. October 2006 - 10:17
#1
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Mixed CWs
My opinion is #1, if someone wanna to decide to put whole partial rank only on one map it is up on clanleaders of both clans. 
Anyway TOTAL rank should be sum of partial ranks. Make rules simple and all details should be fine to leave clanleaders. I make that vote because some clans disagree with current situation, I dont know why they disagree in the first place. It is not their concern if two clans for example decide to play one map TAG and one map TDM.
But I am not biased as some people think and tell me I just leasten people, so I must make all options and comunity should decide. Make more laws complicate negotiation of CWs.
PS Most corrupted states have tons of laws wich can then interpret on many ways, or at purpose laws which have holes and only powerfull group know (creators) how use holes in laws.
Best regards
9. October 2006 - 11:44
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Quote:
The point which i do not understand is, how somebody can vote for point 4? This is totally counterproductive and a regress.
nah in ko eyes it will work like u can play 2 cw one by one and it will work same as u will be played 3 maps on TDM and 3 maps on CTF
so it prety the same as mixed war with minimum map limit, nobody cant limit u to play only one war in one day, ofc u can end tdm matches after 2maps if that alredy descirbed winer
both gametypes are counted to overal rank not as one war but two, so u will gain more points for playing more........ and thats the point ']
@Rena
Quote:
I make that vote because some clans disagree with current situation, I dont know why they disagree in the first place.
couse ko did played matches like that before we were spliting ClanWars to gametypes, and u ranked it after changes as we did losed these matches.....
9. October 2006 - 12:00
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wrote:Quote:
The point which i do not understand is, how somebody can vote for point 4? This is totally counterproductive and a regress.
both gametypes are counted to overal rank not as one war but two, so u will gain more points for playing more........ and thats the point ']
Absolutley
That was possible before. Point is that with any option not equal #1, we narrow freedom to clans...
Best regards
9. October 2006 - 12:12
#5
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There was a vote, with a result. Why do you feel the need to understand why people vote the way they vote? Just accept the decision of the community and move on.
9. October 2006 - 12:19
#6
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Because i want to know the reason, to understand how the people tic, maybe i am wrong with my oppinion of them.
9. October 2006 - 12:44
#7
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Lemon dont have a problem with mixed wars if 3 maps will be played per gametype.Since that wasnt offered in poll answer I added it manually.
9. October 2006 - 13:03
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in mine eyes when one map decide about rank poistion in separed game type thats just silly, why then just dont arange CW for one map only and save time....
9. October 2006 - 13:17
#9
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however, lets c how far it goes.
maybe next year we need to go study first, before we understand the tons of uupcoming rules.
9. October 2006 - 14:31
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Agree with HQ and also don't get what this "limiting for clans" talk is about, there won't really be a change except things are easier and make more sense. If you want to play a TDM war, you play a TDM war. If you want to play a Freeze war, you play a Freeze war. If you want to play a TDM war and a Freeze war, you play a TDM war and a Freeze war. Frankly don't see the sense in playing a war in one gametype but suddenly have the third map in another.
wrote:nothing speaks against, to have first a freeze war, and after that a tdm war.
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anyway HQ, it still cut the freedom of clans. You can still decide for your own clan if u want play mixed or even not.
I could live with a number of minimum maps, but even draw is possible, who cares, than it is a draw war-part.
and if the vote goes so far, to dissallow mixed-wars, than we must make rules also for wartime for eacht gametype, like 15 minuts bla bla, otherwise someone could cry about "if we would have played 12 minutes, we would have won", and also many other war details must be ruled than.