Future Clan Ranking - discusion !

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great job rena Arrow keep it up Happy

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why not creating a new ranking system, this 1 doesn't really show something, if you guys are interested i may post an idea from a friend and me we had about how rank clans after clanwars Happy and how to show a better idea about clan skill and clan activity

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i forgot to write that imho it would be best to to make whole rank new, with some basic rules that all clans should respect, to avoid problems with stuff like pure|pb or FF,

also this would give chance to new clans that were just founded to goto higher, coz now its not possible to go to first place, since first place clans got so much points :}

hmmm, im defenitly not agree, these games played by us were hard work, and now somebody trying to tell me they will be no count couse we made to big deference ? Evil

an im on idea about page with ranksystem based on "sters" idea about what im talked in 1v1 rank forum
http://forums.excessiveplus.net/viewtopic.php?t=5246

btw some ideas of bodz may be handly

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rena ,needs someone to help him. HQ?or Trance maybe?

this will lead to a more regular ladder;even if rena stops somebody can take over.

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Well, imho some more organisation should be put into the whole ranking system. As it is now it isn't worth anything, amount of points dosen't really measure the clans strenght, but only how many wars that one clan played (well, that's not completely true in some cases, like KO, but you get what i mean). For instance, OOC. They lost 8 matches as opposed to 7 matches won, and yet they're the third strongest team in the 2006 rank. I don't have anything against OOC and i'm not saying they're a weak clan but still, i really think clans like WASP, SWE (!) or DRT are better, yet they're behind OOC on the rank. Why? Because they played less matches...

The yearly league system, with fixed amount of clans who would submit their interest in participating before the league start would be the best solution imho. It would verify the true worth of each individual clan playing in this league, and would force the clans to put more effort into each played match.

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@ Rena: good job!!!

imho there should be 2 rankings, just like in tennis: one ranking for one season, and the second that will take into account all the records from the previous years. probably dealing with the ranking issue this way will make all happy Winking

it is only an idea
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ghost wrote:

W L C wrote:

i forgot to write that imho it would be best to to make whole rank new, with some basic rules that all clans should respect, to avoid problems with stuff like pure|pb or FF,

also this would give chance to new clans that were just founded to goto higher, coz now its not possible to go to first place, since first place clans got so much points :}

hmmm, im defenitly not agree, these games played by us were hard work, and now somebody trying to tell me they will be no count couse we made to big deference ? Evil

ur afraid of sth? lolz.. ;} i was thinking bout someting like 12 or 6 months ranks.. [i like the idea of 6 months period] coz this continous one isnt realy fair for new clans, how should they goto top if oldtimers got 15-20 matches more?

each timeranking would have its own sticky thread, and after decided date it would be closed.

ah.. and imho even if the rank would be new, ur "hard work" games wouldnt goto waste.. u got EXP from that games.. isnt it more important than points here? :}

@bodz , idd like to hear ur idea :} hope its fair and sqare for all :} i mean both active/inactive , new/old clans ;}

cheers faith ;]

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This idea comes from the discussion on e5 forum about a good ranking system for every clan, old and new ones.

Like many said the actual ranksystem doesn't really show a fair and true idea about clan skill.
Example swe, wasp are kind of best clan for all and ranked 9/10th . If no real idea about clans with ranking them, then we don't have to do it.

The idea here is too make good clans fighting with each other and bad clans asking to play against all clans etc etc so there will be always great matchs Happy

1)SEASON

During a period 1 year or 6month, each clan can play 2 times against an other 1, not more (they can but it won't be ranked then)
So it's not really like a tourney you have a ratio of match to play against each clan witch will be ranked.

2)SCORE/RULES

    clans with same points or ( < 6 points difference) :

    -winner 3 points, looser - 1

    clans with more or = 6 points difference :

    - if logical win (better ranked clan win other clan) :winner 2 points looser -1
    - if not logical win (other clan win better ranked clan :winner 4 points looser - 2

    clans with more or = 12 points difference :

    - if logical win : winner 1 looser 0
    - if not logical win : winner 5 looser - 3

For example with 4 clans

bs clan : 18 point
shittalker clan : 6
newbieone clan : 6
nolife clan : 0

cw bs clan vs shittalker clan : bs win : bs clan : 19 and shittalker : 6
cw nolife vs newbieone clan : nolife win : nolife : 4 and newbieone : 4

_that's definitly the FAIREST way to rank and show a real idea of the clan skill and his activity.
_All clan don't need to play 2 times against each other 1, and they don't have to play against all clan too.
They do what they want but in order to make all clans playing as much as they can with each 1, after 2 wars between 2 clan, next war between them won't be ranked.

_All clan start at 0 at the begining
_No clan can be negative

3)AIM

_fair way for new clans created/coming during the season
_make more matches between best clans
_make bad/new clan asking more to play against good/best clans
_make more wars between clans who don't used to play together
_let for clans who don't play a lot an opportunity to stay anyway in the top by playing only better ranked opponents
_make a closer rank with some hope for all to reach the top by playing against the best

Of course we need someone who will care this and update the clanranking every 2 weeks/month but it's a matter of easy calculs, nothing hard.

that's all, of course you may add suggests Winking
Hope u like it

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madbringer wrote:

Well, imho some more organisation should be put into the whole ranking system. As it is now it isn't worth anything, amount of points dosen't really measure the clans strenght, but only how many wars that one clan played (well, that's not completely true in some cases, like KO, but you get what i mean). For instance, OOC. They lost 8 matches as opposed to 7 matches won, and yet they're the third strongest team in the 2006 rank. I don't have anything against OOC and i'm not saying they're a weak clan but still, i really think clans like WASP, SWE (!) or DRT are better, yet they're behind OOC on the rank. Why? Because they played less matches...

The yearly league system, with fixed amount of clans who would submit their interest in participating before the league start would be the best solution imho. It would verify the true worth of each individual clan playing in this league, and would force the clans to put more effort into each played match.

it is no league dude, u dont got the point of ranking system. bodz understood the idea of the ranking system..., u not.

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mow Q [EN] wrote:

it is no league dude, u dont got the point of ranking system. bodz understood the idea of the ranking system..., u not.

I know it's not a league, sheesh, why would i propose changing it into one if it was a league already ? :roll:

And you're wrong, i understand what the ranking system is about, i was just pointing out that it's not working!

But i like Bodz's suggestion, i think it's pretty nifty. F1 for that.