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Rico [E][S][T] wrote:

zarzyn wrote:
Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
Hey, look! Tourists making a photos near mh17. WTF?

source: https://twitter.com/UkrProgress/status/491267680453021696

it look like fake picture.

why? Happy

Because it's impossible to believe that there are people on earth that are so heavily fucked up that they would take such holiday pictures?

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Re: Ukraine discussion
BOZO wrote:

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
zarzyn wrote:
Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
Hey, look! Tourists making a photos near mh17. WTF?

source: https://twitter.com/UkrProgress/status/491267680453021696

it look like fake picture.

why? Happy

Because it's impossible to believe that there are people on earth that are so heavily fucked up that they would take such holiday pictures?

Good try, but no... Anybody else?

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Yea it is different plane, check logo, and other pictures of this wreck, then check logo of Malaysia airlines. Stay tuned, I'm in work and going to answer to your post after it;]

And even I walk through the darkest valley of the shadow of death I will be not afraid because I am the worst motherfucker in this place.

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Bingo! Have u checked who is posting fake news? No? I made a collage with proofs for u.

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sorry people for our government Sad

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where U.S. peacekeepers?...
Ukraine for it needs to be in NATO?
Ukrainians were in Iraq, but why not in Ukraine American soldiers!
They nonhumans crash a plane, and does not seem difficult to predict how it ends for the world, their need exterminate until everything has grown into a global war

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Rico [E][S][T] wrote:

SO, u are the guy, telling who is good or bad and who should live or die? Libya was most thriving arab country with Gaddafi and where it is now? Even if they are bad guys, was there a fair justice?

Citizen of Libya started protesting, Gaddafi used army to stop it. UN/NATO took an action. Before this US bombed Libya because they were sponsoring attacks on US bases, I didn't wanted to go into details about any single one, but looks like I have to.

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
Looks like you are choosing only comfortable dates.

WTF? you did choose dates, I answered your post, with your dates, dont try to turn upside down, anyway it is expected and typical.

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
My point was to show that America puts his nose everywhere. Every country US helped with democracy bombs only has funeral business grow.

As I said before, I rather live in country where uncomfortable truth is hidden than face death, and that how dictators regime looks like.

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
BTW if u dont know, NATO is leading by US and telling about NATO agression is the same as telling about US. Well, for 12 years war in Afganistan heroine production grows 40 times. Thats their business there. U know what they sayd for justification? no? they are making working places for civils. Talibans religion is against some sort of drugs, but US killing them.

Yes, they are, but they have to vote as well to do any action. And usually NATO is kind of military power of UN, and Russia is part of UN, do I need to explain it, eh? Yea, I read about it on Polish news website, but source was Russia Today, so I take it with a grain of salt. Btw. muslims are using opiats as a medicine and it is known there for over 2000 years, not heroine of course, but I bet with out anyone there production of drugs would grow even higher.

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
No, dude come on...just for comparison. Talking about US, EU and Rusiia is not an offtop, UA conflict happens coz of them.

1991 South Ossetia War1992 Transistria
1992 Abkhazia
1992 Bosnia
1994 Chechenya
1999 Chechenya
2004 Orange Revolution (there was no military action from Russia side, but support in election fraud)
2008 South Ossetia, again
1939, it wasn't aggression, it was invasion.

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
Same shit happens nearly with every agressor. When germans came, they builded concentration camps. When russians came, they builded factories and farms.

Russians build it in USSR so it wasn't that popular subject, as German's. Kolhoz, I bet you know what I'm about. Builded factories and farms, eh? WTF? what the fuck are you believing in? Yea, they did, after extermination, and annexation half of Poland when we had to give up.

Rico [E][S][T] wrote:
Bingo! Have u checked who is posting fake news? No? I made a collage with proofs for u.

It's AN-26, Ukrainian military transport plane shot down by pro-Russian separatists rebels. check this bonus http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-18-news-channel-uses-metal-gear-solid-5-screenshot-in-child-soldiers-reportSo as you see mistakes like that are pretty common for "both sides"

ua|trance wrote:
sorry people for our government Sad

You don't have to be sorry, it's not your fault.

DrunkWarrior wrote:
where U.S. peacekeepers?...
Ukraine for it needs to be in NATO?
Ukrainians were in Iraq, but why not in Ukraine American soldiers!
They nonhumans crash a plane, and does not seem difficult to predict how it ends for the world, their need exterminate until everything has grown into a global war

Tell me what you can give them in exchange? Being a cop of the world for free isn't a bussines for anyone, they will lose money and soldiers, every country is like big company, and all of them looking for their own benefit, what did you expected? Come over, clean my house, mow my lawn, and go back, do it for free, pay for your flights, would you?

And even I walk through the darkest valley of the shadow of death I will be not afraid because I am the worst motherfucker in this place.

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Looks like you are reading and write only comfortable facts. I don't even want to google for Russian agression acts, because it is not a subject of this topic, and now I can clearly see, you are going to blame for everything Americans or broad "west". I will tell you what my grand mother told me, when Germans arrived during war to her town everything was fine and in order, but when Russians does, you had to run to forest, they was stealing everything even wooden spoons and raped everything what had 2 legs.

My grandmother was a child during the war, some of my relatives witnessed it. Don't start outlining remarkable mercy of any nation during the war, there was no such a thing. A human at war is a panicing scarcely reasonable creature driven by the instinct of self-preservation and the gregarious instinct.
There were German/Austrian soldiers who gave cookies to children and helped them to hide, while there also were soldiers of the very same nations who were raping dead bodies, pulling their hair out and cutting their limbs off.
War is violence and violence has no nationality.

"Ants in the afterbirth, slugs under the sun."

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Asylum wrote:

War is violence and violence has no nationality.

Words of wisdom.

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I'm not what this topic is about, except bashing heads, but however you put it its sad that there are outside casualties in a war. If its about the Ukraine situation now: It is very hard to analyze what happens right now in the region. The Russian policy in Ukraine's history is involved too much, including hidden details, which makes almost impossible to get to a objective conclusion.

I say: lets not waste our time with useful debates and more bashing heads.

As for the nature of war itself, its in human's nature. Its in our blood even if we want it or not.
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