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Seriously, I have no idea, I just read about propaganda here, and I'm trying to explain how does it work, at beginning of this conflict I asked Russian friend about his feelings, and he told me "Putin is right to taking part of Ukraine, because it belongs to him, and you as Poland should agree with his proposal of taking your part". If there will be any war, hopefully Poland won't take part of it, because I'm sure which side "we" will choose, and my problem is: I don't know which side I'd like to choose because I trust no one. There is no country/union which can convince me to fight for them except Poland itself, and not Poland as government, not Poland as country, just Poland as we are: people, with same minds, hearts, blood, united under white and red flag, without orders and rules just to defend our freedom. What's the freedom nowadays? IMHO it ends where freedom of other person is disturbed and under thick cover of lies we can't find out what real and what's propaganda, lies, call it however you want, for some people it's conspiracy, and others will call them paranoid.

And even I walk through the darkest valley of the shadow of death I will be not afraid because I am the worst motherfucker in this place.

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Rico [E][S][T] wrote:

CNN, foxnews, bbc are the biggest propoganda channels against Russia and others potentially anti american countryes. U can call RT propoganda channel, but this channel was created as an opposite listed above channels and if west is constantly lie, RT policy is to say true (or plz give me examples of rt lies and i give u examples of cnn, foxnews lie). For me nowadays war looks like True vs Lie where true is russia and lie is the west. Spokesperson for the United States Department Jen Psaki is always talking bullshit and ignores uncomfortable questions. Hard to lie, isnt it? She confirmed that us goverment getting facts from ukraine goverment. But everybody know how reliable these "facts" are. Like separatists were accused in the incident before investigation. Sure UA nazis will cover their ass, like they did in 2001 with another plane. Overall i think this discussion is useless unless more russians and ukrainians take part in. Since West countryes citizens dont understand russian language, they are only getting 1-side american propoganda news whilst russians getting both. Remember, Russia supports separatists while EU and US supporting nazis, Russia supports Asad while EU and US supporting terrorists

Wall of text. Are you calling me out about RT? Silly, are you one of those that blame everything on America?

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[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:

Wall of text. Are you calling me out about RT? Silly, are you one of those that blame everything on America?

Problem
is that almost all russians blame everything on America/EU. They will
rather live in russia with Crimea(legality of accession does not matter
for them) and consider America and EU to be their enemy and believe in "light future" than face the
truth that country stands on all fours and completely discredited
itself.

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0MS wrote:

[MR.]MIRCWAR wrote:
Wall of text. Are you calling me out about RT? Silly, are you one of those that blame everything on America?

Problem
is that almost all russians blame everything on America/EU. They will
rather live in russia with Crimea(legality of accession does not matter
for them) and consider America and EU to be their enemy and believe in "light future" than face the
truth that country stands on all fours and completely discredited
itself.

I'll give you a radical idea, how about Ukraine gets to fend for itself? No? If not, please say why YOU have the right to decide about their country.

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I wrote nothing about Ukraine, I mean only russia and russians.(Probably my bad english is very difficult to understand)

[MR.]MIRCWAR
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No I read your post too fast, don't worry. Happy

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Please rename this topic or write in Ukrainian

Save Ukraine or next YOU ALL!

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DrunkWarrior wrote:

Please rename this topic or write in Ukrainian

#ignore
EDIT: you are example of that kind of people a propaganda works very well on;]

And even I walk through the darkest valley of the shadow of death I will be not afraid because I am the worst motherfucker in this place.

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Stop war

Save Ukraine or next YOU ALL!